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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 01:28:32 JST Evan Prodromou

   If you're looking for a platform without billionaire investors and owners, well, this is the only one.

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     Vic Uzumeri (vicuzumeri@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 01:41:40 JST Vic Uzumeri

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     @evan

     The distributed administration and diverse community structure also give it resistance to large scale bot and disinfo campaigns.

     My main beef is that some design constraints of ActivityPub are generally poorly explained.

     E.g, I've seen virtually no discussion about its "lossy" memory model. No instance sponsor can afford to archive all of the Fediverse message traffic. Hence, full search is impossible.

     To me, that's a feature of ActivityPubs resistance to abuse. But others expect it.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 02:01:47 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Steve

     @steevc which?

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     Steve (steevc@mastodon.org.uk)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 02:01:48 JST Steve

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     @evan Well I could name another, but it tends to get me into trouble :)

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 02:02:41 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @adiz @vicuzumeri come on.

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     👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 02:02:43 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     • Vic Uzumeri

     @vicuzumeri Just shout at her "JOIN OR DIE" over and over again. @evan

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     Vic Uzumeri (vicuzumeri@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 02:02:44 JST Vic Uzumeri

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     @adiz @evan

     Umm ... are you married? There are costs to that strategy.

     I'm just asking if some folks who are smarter than me can help craft an effective story. I suspect there are quite a few potential converts who might be helped.

     You know, a "feature, not bug" type explanation.

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     Vic Uzumeri (vicuzumeri@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 02:02:47 JST Vic Uzumeri

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     • 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

     @adiz @evan

     I fully agree, but it turns off my wife! I haven't succeeded in explaining the tradeoff to her 😞

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     👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 02:02:47 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     • Vic Uzumeri

     @vicuzumeri She's unsalvageable. Leave her on the pastures of Meta to get harvested like digital livestock. @evan

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     👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 02:02:50 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     • Vic Uzumeri

     @vicuzumeri Data impermanence and content obscurity is a feature as far as I'm concerned. @evan

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 08:10:14 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • meneer

     @meneer ok you should definitely do that

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     meneer (meneer@mastodon.myfed.space)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 08:10:26 JST meneer

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     @evan I would rather refer to the fediverse as a network and Mastodon as a service, than calling it a platform. My mission is to move from platforms to protocols. Platforms are lock-in instruments.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 08:11:16 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • snaeqe

     @snaeqe There are!

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     snaeqe (snaeqe@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 08:11:17 JST snaeqe

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     @evan
     There might as well be fedi servers owned by billionaire investors..

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 09:04:27 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Vic Uzumeri

     @vicuzumeri that's not a technical problem; it's a social one.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 23:24:44 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • andyc

     @andyc Thanks!

     Also, hi! It feels like it's been a while. How are you?

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     Katy Swain (katyswain@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 23:24:46 JST Katy Swain

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     @evan Says the person who took fediverse 1.0 to VC funders and turned it into "Enterprise Social Software".

     https://web.archive.org/web/20120612121941/http://status.net/

     Then the money ran out, as did you.

     You could be telling that story over and over again as a cautionary tale, instead of kidding on that you're some kind of flawless elder statesman.

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     andyc (andyc@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 23:24:46 JST andyc

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     @katyswain @evan

     Err. I think Evan was looking for other revenue streams to keep the identi.ca service going for enthusiastic and loyal users (like me and you). He was undoubtedly subsiding the costs of providing that service for a long time (probably out of his own pocket).

     Not harbouring dreams of becoming a 'billionaire'.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:53:32 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • andyc

     @andyc Good on you! You can buy a social network, then.

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     andyc (andyc@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 01:53:33 JST andyc

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     @evan Still working for the evil borg (Oracle) working on DB cloud migrations and studiously avoiding AI/LLM's.

     Still clinging to the distant, forlorn hope of becoming a billionaire 🙂

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 02:41:04 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • asha 🏴

     @asha that's interesting. What do you mean by "not monetized"? There are already lots of Fediverse services you pay to use, like masto.host and wordpress.com. I think they're OK, although I prefer cooperative models like cosocial (which members also pay for).

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     asha 🏴 (asha@fedia.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 02:41:12 JST asha 🏴

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     @evan
     
     Well, the fediverse will only stay free and not monetarised if we all here watch out.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 05:07:02 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • asha 🏴

     @asha yeah, I think there's a biiiiiig difference in kind between commercial services as an option, and having the entire thing run by a single company. I'm much less concerned about other people making commercial-oriented choices with their social networking if I can easily opt out and ignore it.

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     asha 🏴 (asha@fedia.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 05:07:04 JST asha 🏴

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     @evan
     
     sorry, i expressed myself somewhat incorrectly, as you posted already before, i hope that the fediverse will stay free of billionaires, oligarchs, etc., and won't be hijacked and destroyed by them.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 08:18:54 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • andyc

     @andyc also, and I hate to be the one to tell you, but Oracle isn't even in the top 20 of most evil tech companies any more. It feels kind of quaint to think about a time when the worst thing a tech company could do was have aggressive sales teams that get their product into a borderline monopoly percentage of the world's server rooms.