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   Brian Sullivan (briansullivan@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:02:22 JST Brian Sullivan

   • Dare Obasanjo

   @carnage4life Who defines "prevailing wage"?

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:02:22 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Dare Obasanjo

     @briansullivan @carnage4life dept of labor. Based on cost of living in the area and median wages for the stated work. Anyone who claims a H1B is only preferred cos they are cheap is lying or misled.

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     Brian Sullivan (briansullivan@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:08:34 JST Brian Sullivan

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     • Adrianna Tan

     @skinnylatte Hmm and who will control the department of labor? It seems like a loophole big enough to drive a truck through.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:08:34 JST Adrianna Tan

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     @briansullivan oh god, H1B data is public, look up any company including Trump’s and Elon’s, they are visas for jobs from 120-400K min

     Saying you’ll pay that and then not doing that is a whole host of other crimes, people take this seriously. There are other issues of exploitation but this conspiracy that people who don’t know anything about H1Bs keep perpetuating is not true. Actual H1Bs are saying it’s not true.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:13:57 JST Adrianna Tan

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     @briansullivan there’s a whole publicly searchable table and everything

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:13:45 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • SlightlyCyberpunk

     @admin @briansullivan people are talking about H1Bs from cognizant / wipro / tata like the entire program is like that. That’s 4 in 10 of H1B visas.

     That’s not the default in the Bay Area and other tech hubs, where regular people getting visas are the default.

     Recent changes to the visa class are aimed at making it so that these onshoring companies can’t exploit people like this. There’s a new rule about them coming into effect on Jan 17.

     Wanting to restrict a program to shut down onshoring doesn’t change the fact that these types of companies will simply offshore instead.

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     SlightlyCyberpunk (admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:13:49 JST SlightlyCyberpunk

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     • Adrianna Tan

     @briansullivan @skinnylatte Yeah they definitely scam this. I worked for Tata for a few years. The trick is, your job is not your job. I was either an application team member, or a level three dev, or a senior analyst depending on who you asked. You'll have two guys trading shifts doing exactly the same work but the guy with a year more experience is here on an H1B and HR says he's a level 2 and the American working the other shift is a level 3 so the guy with the H1B gets paid 15% less.

     And they'll justify that with education or annual reviews (which are largely political negotiations between managers) or whatever, but the fact is they're both doing the same work but the H1B worker gets paid less. And usually they work way more hours too. Because if they don't, they might no longer be in the top x% of the team and they'll get sent back to the team in India and one of those folks gets sent over here to replace them.

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     Franklin Delano Stallone (fds@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:17:18 JST Franklin Delano Stallone

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     • Adrianna Tan

     @skinnylatte @briansullivan Searching the FLAG DB, the Santa Clara median for non-R&D is $132,205.00 and the R&D median is $93,038.00.

     I don't think my employer is known for being on the high end of salaries but those are low. Looking at my employer's H1-B salaries some eng II are paid $30k less than some idiot citizens were a few years ago.

     I think H1-B visas are a good thing but I can see why people might think it will hold back wage rises. Citizens won't factor in the cost of applying.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:17:18 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Franklin Delano Stallone

     @fds @briansullivan that’s the salary floor.

     My own actual salary was always at least 20-50K less than the stated one in the H1B posting. That’s the rate at which you need to clear to approve the visa. You generally pick the wage level according to the hourly rate and the stated occupation. It doesn’t include stock.