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   william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 03:14:36 JST william.maggos

   • Evan Prodromou

   @evan

   that was a myth imo. we can either have nations pursuing their own interests (often corrupted by the donors to their leaders) or the decision to support a strong UN that will best manage international conflict. what the US does is the first while saying they are supporting liberal democratic world order. until the US decides to concede power and work towards a better UN, shit is fucked. confusion, collateral damage and unintended consequences everywhere.

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     ryan (ryan@bemrose.social)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 03:14:30 JST ryan

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     @wjmaggos I'm just trying to figure out how you reconcile wanting everything to be local and decentralized in social media, but when applying those same principles to other things people might want to do, it somehow takes on a negative connotation ("international anarchy") and must be met with a one-world police state.
     
     A state which, as I try to point out, will be a power magnet for all of the worst humanity has to offer, and, as history has shown time and again, will inevitably become corrupt and oppressive.
     
     You think handing your social media keys to Elon is dangerous. Imagine when it's everything in life. And there is no place on earth to escape to. (Then again, maybe you can't imagine that, which is why you still think it's a good idea)
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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 03:14:31 JST william.maggos

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     • ryan
     • 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

     @ryan @adiz

     there seems to be some confusion here. I want the people of the world to decide international conflicts together, without violence. Or if violence is necessary, as a police action by a world law enforcement entity via democratic oversight. That doesn't imply more poverty or corruption or the enforcement of values on anyone. We already have those imposed by a system of international anarchy where powerful countries do as they will and weaker countries suffer as they must. Fuck that.

     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 repeated this.
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     ryan (ryan@bemrose.social)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 03:14:32 JST ryan

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     • Evan Prodromou
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     @wjmaggos @adiz @evan And how is that worse than your plan to solve it through widespread poverty and corruption?
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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 03:14:33 JST william.maggos

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     • Evan Prodromou
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     @adiz @evan

     because otherwise the conflict that inevitably develops gets solved through violence?

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     👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing) (adiz@wl0.9ch.nl)'s status on Sunday, 22-Dec-2024 03:14:35 JST 👺防空識別區👹 (sojourn maxxing)

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @wjmaggos Why should there be a liberal democratic world order in the first place? @evan