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   Mancow Muller ? (cowanon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:33 JST Mancow Muller ?
   >Masculinity is an actual social construct and More - Studies
   
   tl;dr women as a group are THE most powerful humans in all civilizations ever; all men are just along for the ride and most of them will get run over and nobody will care
   
   Very long, high IQ post from one of the dreaded lumpenproletariat whose mere existence triggers even some here on the so-called redpilled side of fedi. My personal favorite parts:
   
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   >Now, this one is less discussed and may come as a surprise to some here.
   >1. women are the only group in society that has innate in-group preference for their own gender
   >2. this means women naturally form a "herd" or "hive"
   >3. women trust women; men trust women; men fight men; ->society
   
   >That means, society is only women. Men fighting to get female validation is an attempt to get BACK into society.
   >ALL men are viewed as and out-group by both men and women. Every man is a stranger effectively.
   >The only way to get away from this, is by being accepted by women. If one woman accepts you, all do and thus, you are part of society (which is only women).
   >That's why people always act suspicious around single males, but not around men with women.
   
   >What that means for us is that the female in-group dictates which traits men need to display to get access to their in-group. Aka, women define what masculinity is.
   
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   >So, I propose an alternative theory for why women are more valued, with a different starting presupposition:
   
   >1. Men respond to neoteny in any form, puppies, children, women with parental instinct (origin of instinct is debatable)
   >2. Women do everything in their power to exaggerate sexual dimorphism and increase neoteny (Esther Vilar wrote about this in her 1971 book "The Manipulated Man")
   >3. The mechanism (for lack of a better word) that makes men forgive women, is the same mechanism that makes men forgive a dog for shitting on the rug.
   
   >Dogs, btw, are nutritionally deficient mutants bred to look retarded and neotenous. It's literally like having a down syndrome child in your home, but on purpose. Women anyone?
   >3 million dog bites that need medical attention in US every year, yet nobody cares. >Why? Neoteny, the dog is never blamed. If it was a hyena people would put it through meat grinder and applaud the person doing it.
   >It's the same mechanism that shields women from blame. It's just their looks. Stupid example to make a point: If a woman looked like a man, but acted the same, would her behavior be remotely acceptable? No, of course not -> ALWAYS genderswap in your head. Use faceapp on bitches to see what they would look like as men, then you can tell their actual nature. Some bitches look like thugs when genderswapped and their behavior always matches the looks.
   
   >So, the only thing that keeps women from getting their register pounded six days from tomorrow is their looks.
   
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   >That means, women are in total control of society on any level. They dictate beliefs, thoughts, how men view themselves, who gets big on social media, they dictate the entire market through their spending etc...
   >I want you to pay attention on livestreams, where the money comes from when they do superchats and shit.
   
   >I think even Karl Marx wrote that you can't start a revolution with men. You kickstart the foids first and the men follow.
   
   >It all comes down to something we all are familar with: Briffaults law
   >Briffault's law states:
   >"The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place."
   
   >Now, in the light of all of the above, consider the insane power women hold in society. It's truly staggering how powerless men are.
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     Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:28 JST Kyonko802

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     @Pawlicker @cowanon @redneonglow It's fucking demonic. My grandpa was fine working twelve hours (sometimes every day of the week) and had a perfectly normal functioning life. Only our current system could make shorter shifts actually worse for you somehow.
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     Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:29 JST Kyonko802

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     @cowanon @redneonglow With me I found out that the problem was working five days a week. I've never had trouble socializing, I just fucking hate the dating game and have been cheated on in every relationship, so I stopped trying.
     
     Once I switched to a 12 hour shift pacific rotation (2 days on, 3 days off, two days on two days off, three days on) I found myself not being stressed and burnt out at all. I have the same amount of free time a regular normy gets but it's clustered together in a better way, and I only have to work two or three days before I get a real break.
     
     The five day work week is not only inefficient, it's demoralizing. And I think it's that way on purpose. Reminder that more work got done in the office space when people got to stay at home all day than when they were commuting to the office.
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     Pawlicker (pawlicker@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:29 JST Pawlicker

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     @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @cowanon@nicecrew.digital @redneonglow@varishangout.net It's efficient in terms of pencil pushers.
     
     Sure, you're driving a ton there and back. Sure you're driving possibly hours each day, depending on the kind of low-wage job you got. But thanks to labor rules, they have to pay overtime after 40 hours, healthcare after 29 hours, and whatnot.
     
     So you have less pay, a demoralized workforce, healthcare you're having to get from the ACA market or some shit instead of being able to "take some out of your paycheck" (still above "lol good luck finding a doctor" with medicaid), and more turnover relying on whatever wagie will fall for this job next because the job market is full of HR people rejecting your resume.
     
     But their bottom line is, "do we need to pay benefits" and "how can we avoid paying employees as much as possible".

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     redneonglow (redneonglow@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:30 JST redneonglow

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     I regret "climbing out of the hole" in terms of joining the workforce though.
     
     While I was paid next to nothing when I was on disability, I didn't expect that the job market would be so hostile to White men, people with autism, and people with large gaps in their employment, and that I would be forced to work the jobs nobody wants to work.
     
     If I do get this apartment I will probably have to get a second part-time job and work a sixth day.
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     Mancow Muller ? (cowanon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:30 JST Mancow Muller ?

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     I spent only about five and a half years being full-time employed and owning my own car and apartment living alone, and it was just a different kind of misery than living in my mom's garage playing video games and shitposting day in, day out for over a decade -- I did have like 5 part-time jobs in this time that I kept for around 2-12 months each, so I was at least trying to climb out of the hole despite the anchor of literal brain damage always choking me more and more the harder I try to do anything at all.
     
     Anyway: living independently had its perks compared to NEETing especially at first, but it sucked that I had no energy after forcing a lid on my autism and fake-fake-faking to fit in for 40-50 hours every week. Not to mention that aforementioned anchor growing heavier and heavier with each passing month.
     
     I don't know how people keep their minds from falling apart doing what I struggled so hard to do for their entire adult lives! Guess that's one of the many perks of being born with healthy neurology and thus being welcomed by the accepted orthodoxy of "normal" instead of getting told over and over in no uncertain terms that you are Different and that is Badwrong.
     
     I'm thankfully getting disabilitybux now, though, and I have no intention of returning to the workforce.
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     Mancow Muller ? (cowanon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:31 JST Mancow Muller ?

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     Good on you for climbing out of the hole! And yeah I agree with you on your MGTOW vs incel point, that incels are very much crabs-inna-bucket even if their motivation (or lack thereof) is understandable. In the 00's I was part of some MGTOW forums (which are all dead) and the attitude is more "women exist? okay. too busy with my own thing instead of sinking all my resources into getting my dick wet". MGTOW still haven't been forgiven for this attitude. :animu_laugh2:
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     redneonglow (redneonglow@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:32 JST redneonglow

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     @cowanon Is that from Incels.is? I read posts there regularly, though I don't have an account there (I regularly post on Scored.co's MGTOW group)
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     redneonglow (redneonglow@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:32 JST redneonglow

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     @cowanon I've never known of any hostility to incels on alt-Fedi. Is Nicecrew Digital like that?
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     Mancow Muller ? (cowanon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:32 JST Mancow Muller ?

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     I don't have any examples on me (and I don't want to name names to avoid the drama llama) but I've occasionally seen it. Usually it's directed at other groups of low-value males like MGTOWs and MRAs.
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     redneonglow (redneonglow@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:32 JST redneonglow

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     The reason I prefer MGTOW to incel is because MGTOW encourages self-improvement and self-help for your own sake while incel groups are very negative. It was MGTOW which brought me out of the cycle of being a repeatedly friendzoned simp and encouraged me to take that trip to the Nevada brothels two years ago (and I'm probably going back again next year)
     
     I'm a big fan of self-improvement, I think I mentioned to you that I left the Catholic church for New Age spirituality which is big on self-improvement.
     
     I was on disability for 11 years, and had reached a point where I became dissatisfied and wanted a better quality of life. Self-improvement and New Age spirituality encouraged me to get back into the workforce, and get my driver's license which I had previously thought impossible due to my autism. I will hopefully be moving out of my parents' house in the middle of nowhere into my own apartment in a larger city next year.
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     Mancow Muller ? (cowanon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 09:59:33 JST Mancow Muller ?

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     Yes. I didn't want to directly link because I know how absolutely bugfuck most terminally-online people become at even the words of an incel. They're hated even more than jews and niggers are by "dark fedi". Which is why I strongly hesitated posting this here knowing I'd be painting a target on my back, but it was just TOO good to not share.
     
     Hell, this hate-volcano of insane bugfuckery proves one of the aforementioned points: men who are rejected by, or themselves have rejected, women as a whole are horrifying monsters to be exterminated in the minds of almost everyone on all sides of all aisles!
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     kuteboiCoder (kuteboicoder@subs4social.xyz)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 10:25:06 JST kuteboiCoder

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     @redneonglow@varishangout.net @cowanon@nicecrew.digital
     
     related
     
     RE: https://subs4social.xyz/notes/a0ygju7lsv

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     Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 11:21:25 JST Kyonko802

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     @Pawlicker @cowanon @redneonglow A different county tried to snipe me when I went to police academy. They kept talking about how much more you get paid and other shit but as soon as I heard the words "mandatory overtime" I basically told them to fuck off.
     
     At least they have the decency to actually pay overtime.
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     Pawlicker (pawlicker@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Monday, 16-Dec-2024 11:21:26 JST Pawlicker

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     @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @cowanon@nicecrew.digital @redneonglow@varishangout.net My old job had 12 hour shifts that were brutal but only due to the working conditions and the "rotating them" where one week was 4 12 hour shifts and one was 3, also the job was a bit of a drive and I didn't have much in the way of social interaction there.