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    nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:16:33 JST nixCraft 🐧 nixCraft 🐧

    WTF? 😳 OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment: Suchir Balaji, 26, claimed the company broke copyright law. Balaji helped gather and organize the enormous amounts of internet data used to train the startup’s ChatGPT chatbot. Information he held was expected to play a key part in lawsuits against the OpenAI https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/12/13/openai-whistleblower-found-dead-in-san-francisco-apartment/

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      OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment
      from Jakob Rodgers
      A former OpenAI researcher who raised concerns about the company is dead at 26.
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      nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:16:42 JST nixCraft 🐧 nixCraft 🐧
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      You read this kind of stuff in comic books or fictional books, but it seems that fiction is slowly becoming reality. Powerful corporations will have unlimited money doing crazy things and will not be afraid of laws. This is a messed up situation for sure.

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      Nazo (nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:18:27 JST Nazo Nazo
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      @nixCraft Eh... There's a lot of really bad stuff I'd be willing to lump on companies that push AI, but I seriously doubt they're having people murdered. "Found dead" and "was murdered" mean two very different things. Especially with the police themselves saying there was no evidence of foul play.

      We haven't *quite* reached Russia's point of people just suddenly falling out of windows or ingesting poison and the police ignoring it. Yet.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:18:27 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft I don't know enough of the facts on this one to say, but Boeing was surely murder.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:21:44 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Nazo

      @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft https://fortune.com/2024/05/02/boeing-whistleblower-dead-joshua-dean-45-sudden-severe-infection/

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        Another Boeing whistleblower is dead—this time a healthy 45-year-old who battled a sudden, severe infection
        from Will Daniel
        “It is known at Spirit that if you make too much noise and cause too much trouble, you will be moved,” Joshua Dean once told the Wall Street Journal.
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      Nazo (nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:21:45 JST Nazo Nazo
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      @dalias @nixCraft Boeing?

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:33:09 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft As I recall the first one they killed had explicitly warned that he feared fir his life and was adamant that he would not commit suicide and that if anyone said he did, it would be murder.

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      Nazo (nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:33:10 JST Nazo Nazo
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      @dalias @nixCraft Well, it's certainly not "falling out a window" level obvious. It still leaves a decently large amount of room for doubt and questions. Especially in this day and age of us living in a pro-disease society.

      Not saying it isn't murder -- I absolutely wouldn't pretend to know -- just that it's definitely not what you'd call a clear-cut case.

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      vxo (vxo@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:44:38 JST vxo vxo
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      @dalias @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft considering how much defense sector shit is dependent on Boeing and probably also OpenAI, uhhhh, maybe "disappeared" is almost the right word

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 11:46:25 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft In that case, the "conspiracy theory" explanation would be that he "staged his own murder trying to frame Boeing to make them look (more than they did already) bad" 🙄 while Occam's Razor says Boeing murdered him.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 12:30:50 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Nazo

      @rjblaskiewicz @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft You failed to read. Infection was the second death not the first.

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      Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 (rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 12:30:51 JST Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱
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      • Nazo

      @dalias @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft Nope. Occam's razor says it was an infection.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 12:51:36 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @rjblaskiewicz @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft That is the most despicable take I've heard yet.

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      Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 (rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 12:51:37 JST Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱
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      • Nazo

      @dalias @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft You're right. I apologize. The fact he brought up suicide suggests he had suicide on his mind.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 13:05:07 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Nazo

      @rjblaskiewicz @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft I mean the idea that someone says "I'm not going to commit suicide" is evidence of suicide is despicable. It's setting up a no-win situation for someone whose life is threatened.

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      Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 (rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 13:05:08 JST Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱
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      @dalias @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft

      Despic it all you like. Most conspiracy theories paper over unknowns with our own fears, projections, and facile cookie-cutter narratives. I think the ready-baked explanations are generally the least plausible. At least my narrative centers on the genuine suffering that whistleblowers face.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 13:45:53 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Nazo

      @rjblaskiewicz @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft Honestly your speculation was more offensive. Your conclusion there is backed by some evidence rather than just "anyone who talked about suicide must have been suicidal".

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      Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 (rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 13:45:55 JST Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱
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      @dalias @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft

      Fuck, even his lawyers thought that his testimony triggered him. I don't see anything suggesting that he has a premonition of foul play in the first place. So I retract my speculation. He just killed himself. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-boeing-whistleblower-testified-12-100000958.html

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        Exclusive: The Boeing whistleblower testified for 12 hours before his suicide. Here’s what he saw at the planemaker that alarmed him
        Barnett's 141 pages of testimony make crucial reading for anyone interested in grasping the deep-seated problems underlying the planemaker’s current crisis.
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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 13:53:16 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Nazo

      @rjblaskiewicz @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft It was reported even in mainstream sources at the time it happened. But again, that's not even the point. The most offensive and unjust thing you said was the implication: that, *if* he said he wasn't going to commit suicide, that makes suicide more likely.

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      Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 (rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 13:53:17 JST Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱
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      @dalias @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft

      You have every right to be offended. Where did he say that he was not going to kill himself? I didn't see it.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 14:05:54 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Nazo

      @rjblaskiewicz @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft Saying it in the context of general distress or mental health crisis is completely different from saying it in the context of having reason to fear one will be murdered.

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      Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 (rjblaskiewicz@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 14-Dec-2024 14:05:55 JST Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 Bob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱
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      @dalias @nazokiyoubinbou @nixCraft

      Not that it necessarily makes it more likely, just that he has suicide on his mind. (Though I defy you to show me someone who deliberately kills themself without thinking about killing themself.) I mean, who says, "I'm totally not gonna kill myself" out loud? It's like one of those things that is assumed in all social interactions. But did he ever say it? I sort of remember it, but I don't see it.

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