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   Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 22:01:48 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
   I wonder if there's any #GNU/Linux or #BSD distribution out there that's relatively modern, stable, and well-maintained, and also not taken over by political nonsense?
   
   It doesn't have to be purely free software, though that would be a plus.
   
   Maybe #OpenBSD? I've used that before on a laptop (until ~10 years ago I think) and it was honestly OK, until my Firefox was so outdated I couldn't watch WebM that people began using in place of GIFs... OpenBSD doesn't seem to have a CoC, which is good.
   
   #FreeBSD has a CoC but it seems acceptable, maybe. At least it lists "sex" alongside "gender identity" as two separate characteristics so it's not entirely brainrotten. It's the most popular BSD if I'm not mistaken, so may be interesting.
   
   #NetBSD also always seemed quite interesting. Maybe I'll try that out for a change. Doesn't seem to have a CoC.
   
   Other than that, #PureOS sounds like a good sensible fully free GNU/Linux-libre distro based on Debian so I might go with that I suppose. Can't find any CoC.
   
   #Dragora is very interesting. It's been developed by one guy for years??? Not sure if it's gonna be as modern and well-maintained as some of the other options though.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 22:01:47 JST SuperDicq

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     @taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org It doesn't have to be purely free softwareYou actually care more about this then you do about actual free software?
     
     Politics don't matter in free software. The software is actually yours and people who have different politics than you have no control over it.
     
     I don't care if my software is written by a bpd transgender catgirl or a schizophrenic nazi. As long as it is free I can do with it what I want.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 22:34:07 JST SuperDicq

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     @taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org If they don't want to accept the patch that you submitted that does not affect your computer. That's their own decision.
     
     Maybe your patch will still be useful to other users of the software even if it is not "officially included", happens all the time.
     
     Also hanging out in a project's IRC channel is not required to use the software.

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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 22:34:09 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq
     
     To some degree that's true, but not entirely.
     
     > I don't care if my software is written by a bpd transgender catgirl or a schizophrenic nazi. As long as it is free I can do with it what I want.
     
     What if you want to contribute a patch? Now you have to interact with the bpd transgender catgirl and/or schizophrenic nazi. (Maybe they're both; more likely than you'd think!)
     
     Not just contribution either. If you want to hang out in the software's community, like IRC channel or whatever, it could cause issues as well. I don't wanna be forced to speak of a schizophrenic catgirl trans nazi who looks like the Unabomber IRL as a "she" no matter how cute his anime girl pfp is.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 22:50:08 JST SuperDicq

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     @taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org Try being less transphobic

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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 22:50:09 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq It would be super annoying having to run a fork of something, especially if it's a big and fundamental thing on my puter like say a central component of GuixSD or whatever OS I'm running.
     
     (Tbh the politics isn't the only reason I've moved away from Guix. The resource hunger of purely functional package / system management is insane.)
     
     Sure you don't need to interact with the community but it's useful if you can do so without feeling like you're entering a lion's den every time.
     
     When I think about it, I'm literally experiencing the very thing that CoCs were supposed to solve. It's so ironic. And no, I'm not faking it to make a point. I feel legit uncomfortable and fearful going near communities that have gone "woke" because of how they pile on and bully you for not conforming to them.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 22:56:55 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • SuperDicq
     Tell that to the faggots. If this offends you or then, then my software isn't politics free. 😏
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2024 23:01:59 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @Humpleupagus @SuperDicq
     
     Oh look it's the retarded elephant.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 21:05:47 JST 翠星石

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     @taylan I use Gentoo-libre.
     
     Gentoo is a proprietary distro by default, but it is possible to use in freedom.
     
     PureOS seems fine; https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html
     
     "Open"BSD and "Free"BSD are chock full of proprietary software.
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 21:05:48 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @Suiseiseki What distro(s) do you use? :blobcat-think3:
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 21:12:05 JST 翠星石

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     @taylan Gentoo does now offer more pre-compiled binaries, but they're built on computers running proprietary software and for stuff like firefox do things like compile with the telemetry USE flag enabled - so I don't use them.
     
     Binary package support in portage has been mature for years, it's just a matter of compiling the binaries.
     
     I compile everything from source and I have no problems doing so, as I don't try to compile garbage.
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 21:12:06 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @Suiseiseki Thanks. Does Gentoo reliably offer pre-compiled binaries nowadays? I had heard they started doing it but I don't know if it's mature yet. (I'd prefer not compiling everything from source.)
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     Solène :flan_hacker: (solene@bsd.network)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 17:04:44 JST Solène :flan_hacker:

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     @passthejoe @taylan you can check latest version available for 7.6 on https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.6/packages-stable/amd64/

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     Steven Rosenberg (passthejoe@ruby.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 17:04:45 JST Steven Rosenberg

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     @taylan #OpenBSD updates #firefox often these days

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 13:25:36 JST 翠星石

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     @taylan >fully functional and feature-rich #GNU system that doesn't depend on Linux at all
     That already exists, it's called GNU/Hurd.
     
     You can boot it straight into the Church of Emacs, what else could you want?
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 13:25:37 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @Suiseiseki Thanks, I guess I might try #Gentoo (libre or not) at some point. Still too addicted to proprietary shit like video games. :blobcat-pensive: For now I'm trying out #FreeBSD.
     
     I really hope one day there will be a fully functional and feature-rich #GNU system that doesn't depend on Linux at all, and that's developed by people who are sensible about political matters and who don't create an insular community that kicks you out if you don't actively validate the gender identity of a 6-foot straight guy identifying as a lesbian cat girl.
     
     I know Linux-libre is free of proprietary code at least, but it still depends on the Linux upstream which seems to be under corporate control to a large extent now.