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   Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 01:59:07 JST Sick Sun
   more and more people are figuring out that this place doesn't "spark joy" anymore. I encourage you to explore why. Look beyond who specifically on here makes you feel bad and try to figure out the forces behind why all these people changed.
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 02:04:37 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     I'd say it's due to the propietary-brained, fascist-minded cattle from Mastodon.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 02:09:47 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     "you don't miss [twitter/the early fediverse/insert older social media system here] you miss being 10 years younger/more naive"
     
     We've all grown more bitter.
     
     Sure the censorship/trolls/russian/microsoft demoralization campaigns/sjws/global conflict doesn't help, but at the end of the day, with age comes not seeing the world as an exciting place full of joy as much. Sure there's people who really are hopeless, psychotic and/or broken, and interacting with them does not spark joy...but the older you get the less people's bullshit you are going to want to put up with.
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     Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 02:12:18 JST Bricky

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     @sun Travelling ATM so I'll quickly say the extended honeymoon period has ended. I started losing it around the time of Mastodon and various exodus forms have seen people who haven't assimilated, only bringing their Twitter habits with them, making interactions more stressful and less interesting.
     
     A thought I'm still developing is the plateau of unkept promises Pleroma et al. I've experienced and living with something not at parity with GNU Social. As soon as the money dried up, so did the interest in building a complete UX. Moderation tools are unfinished and nobody knows where it was going, for example. Seeing instances pack up because of unworkable DB states is sad as I've seen names I used to enjoy talking with gone from the annals of Fedi.
     
     I remain interested in the endeavours of yourself, Pete, and others, to reshape the experience to fulfil the unrealised potential of building anew with the inspiration of GNU Social, Friendica, etc. Fediblock doesn't bother me, what does is the quality of interactions. I want my tight-knit communities back.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 02:12:52 JST Sick Sun

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     @thatbrickster I am trying to expand what is possible but I dont know how long it will take to release anything.
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     Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 02:14:20 JST Bricky

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     @sun Please don't rush. I was patient with Pleroma's growing pains and I trust you to work for the right reasons.
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     Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw37j1@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 03:55:34 JST Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @sun I think part of the issue is that people come here expecting it to be like Twitter (Threads, Instagram, Facebook, etc). That is, they expect the feature set to be those things best implemented in a centralized fashion, including centralized moderation. This was true since the Mastodon invasion *, but it is especially true now that people are fleeing Twitter because of Elon Musk's political activities.
     
     Compounding forces include Fediblock, which actively partitions the network into multiple subnetworks without giving people any clue which of their contacts will be suddenly unreachable, the slowness of development throughout the many software projects, and the longstanding and wrongheaded decision to try and hide most of the Federation aspects.
     
     If we insist on only showing people's display names and partial @username all the time, we're always going to confuse new folks, and make it more difficult to develop features which depend upon and are strengthened by federation ... which are the things that federated networks can do better than centralized networks.
     
     And likewise, if the only positive thing we can think of is censorship resistance, we're likely to attract mostly people who are intentionally offensive and therefore blocked.
     
     There's a lot more to say, but I've got some grandkids upstairs that I haven't really hung around with for 5+ years. I need to log off and go spend time with them.
     
     * It was definitely an invasion, as Mastodon sought out and attracted people very different from the then-current Fedizens, which led to a much less satisfying culture throughout the network. (This predated Fediblock, but that was inevitable once these users brought their culture here from the sites they'd been using before.) I suppose the flood of 4chan folks shortly before and during the first Masto wave was also an invasion, but at the time, they weren't so noticeably vile.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 04:03:22 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @sun related: https://hackers.town/@lmorchard/113556770188913224
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     Dad (noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 09:19:06 JST Dad

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     @sun the Fediverse still kicks ass. I want to spend the rest of my life here.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 09:19:06 JST Sick Sun

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     @noyoushutthefuckupdad i'm never leaving. just complaining
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 19:50:39 JST 翠星石

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     @sun The thing that sparks joy is my posts.
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