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   Matthew Garrett (mjg59@nondeterministic.computer)'s status on Sunday, 01-Dec-2024 04:36:41 JST Matthew Garrett

   It's just… this is the level of discourse that's expected to be part of being part of the free software community? And it could just not be?

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 01-Dec-2024 04:36:36 JST jwz

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     @mjg59 We definitely need more of the "free software community" discussing the genitals of strangers. I see no way this could go wrong.

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 06:11:27 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     @mjg59 @jwz evidently some people just can't help their prejudice and intolerance.
     
     why does someone has to bring their obsession about genitals to a conversation about sport categories?
     
     there's no doubt (in my mind at least) that she's a woman. maybe others have doubts, but are they in the free software community, or is that just another layer of prejudice you can't seem to help? http://techrights.org/o/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/
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     Matthew Garrett (mjg59@nondeterministic.computer)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 06:31:43 JST Matthew Garrett

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
     • jwz

     @lxo @jwz Radek was the one who raised the issue, and when he was criticised for that you seemed unhappy!

     Not sure why you're linking to a site written by someone who's repeatedly misgendered people as evidence against me - my point in saying anything about my past behaviour is to emphasise that personal development is possible

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     Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Monday, 02-Dec-2024 21:29:00 JST Yuchen Pei

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
     • jwz
     @lxo
     > there's no doubt (in my mind at least) that she's a woman.  maybe others have doubts, but are they in the free software community
     
     What proportion of the free software community are skeptical that people with male-only DSD are women? That is a good question, though it can be hard to know because of the gender McCarthyism.
     
     @jwz @mjg59
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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 23:31:29 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     • Yuchen Pei
     @quasi @mjg59 @jwz it's cool that you've improved and stopped hating some of the people who've never done you any wrong and who were just being themselves
     
     it's not cool, however, for you to kick that personal development ladder when it's being used by people who are still behind you. what is your goal in attacking and ostracizing them, to harden their beliefs and prevent them from making the same leap?
     
     it's even uglier when you direct your hatred towards those whom you misidentify as being behind you, like you did to me. long way to go...
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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Dec-2024 23:35:51 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     of course I was unhappy, that line of argumentation wasn't useful, it wasn't leading anywhere, and it wasn't going to convince anyone.
     
     the question in my mind now is why you seemed happy with a line of argumentation that sucked and only detracted from this cause we share?
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     Matthew Garrett (mjg59@nondeterministic.computer)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 02:53:26 JST Matthew Garrett

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

     @lxo You were unhappy that someone was being criticised for making a transphobic argument? Ok.

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     jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 02:56:05 JST jwz

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

     @lxo @mjg59 @quasi@peister.org

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 13:09:12 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     no, sir, you're not being honest, because I know you're not that dense or forgetful.
     
     I said before, I was unhappy because the entire argument was embarrassing and self-defeating. there was no useful criticism in it.
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     Matthew Garrett (mjg59@nondeterministic.computer)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Dec-2024 13:19:19 JST Matthew Garrett

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

     @lxo but you criticised the person criticising the transphobe, not the transphobe