AnarchoNinaWrites
One thing I will say is miss me with "neoliberalism is not fascism" debates because even though I could argue the point with you about why they're so similar, we're past that.
Doing genocides? Is fascism. Empowering a violent, racialized police state? Is fascism. Hunting down and building a vast prison arpeggio for migrants? Is fascism. Doing capitalism on a boiling planet when you KNOW it'll kill billions? Is fascism.
A fascist, is someone who does fascism. Both parties ran on doing fascism.
AnarchoNinaWrites
And some of you are just itching to hit that reply button to scream at me that "they are NOT the same" even though that's not at all what I said. I just said, both parties are running on doing fascism and doing fascism makes one a fascist. The reasons WHY are irrelevant; fascists are people who do fascism. And you cannot "stop fascism" by agreeing to do "some fascism, but not as much as the other fascists." Which is why the Dems couldn't turn out the vote to stop fascism like they did in 2020.
AnarchoNinaWrites
The very same "wise centrists" who just lead you to ash and ruin, are pretty sure that the problem is "the voters are wrong" even though that is categorically impossible because the job is to get elected, and everyone but the people who had full control over the campaign and decided to run on an even worse version of the platform that lost to Trump in 2016, instead of the one that beat him in 2020 is to blame.
If you're dumb enough to go for it? We didn't have anything to talk about anyway.
AnarchoNinaWrites
I cannot stress this enough - the job, is to get elected. It just is. The Harris campaign and the larger democratic party chose enabling a genocide, giving handies to racist murderpigs, and hunting down migrants over getting elected. Gaslighting people about inflation and Covid probably didn't help either. But nobody put a gun to their head to MAKE them abandon their successful 2020 platform to embrace fascism and run back Clinton's neocon campaign from 2016.
They did that. They're responsible.
AnarchoNinaWrites
What a great number of liberals seem to have learned about fascism over the past five years is that "fascism is what the GOP does; if the GOP isn't the one doing it, it's not fascism" and "fascism is only when the violence affects me and people who look like me; if the violence targets people who don't look like me or is exported beyond my neighborhood, then it's not fascism."
This is hogwash, but also extremely on brand for Americans. But you aren't antifascists. Not even close.
RebelGeek99
@AnarchoNinaWrites already there's cries to shut up and put up, fall in line, and vote harder in 2028. They'll never change, it's simply not in that party's nature. You can bet the new DNC chair they're voting in will be even more sympathetic to the causes of the far right, in actions if not rhetoric.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@RebelGeek99 Yeah; I've been calling it Weimar American for over a decade, for a reason. If anything, 2020 was the aberration; especially given that we know how Biden governed AFTER running on a platform about dismantling fascism and pushing back the fascist tide across vast portions of the state system.
Robert Link
@AnarchoNinaWrites @RebelGeek99 "Over a decade?" I pretty much gave up with "The Patriot" act.
Nobody باچیز नास्ति (he/him)
@phaedral @AnarchoNinaWrites @RebelGeek99 that was over a decade ago
Robert Link
@tadbithuman @AnarchoNinaWrites @RebelGeek99 tadbithuman: Yeah, I'm agreeing and saying it's been more than two for me.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@phaedral @tadbithuman @RebelGeek99 Didn't ask, don't care. Want a cookie?
Robert Link
@AnarchoNinaWrites @tadbithuman @RebelGeek99 I'll pass on the cookie. Watching my waistline. Mostly I'm watching it grow.
RebelGeek99
@phaedral @AnarchoNinaWrites I pretty much tuned them out in 2012 after the ACA was compromised on, the crooks of Wall Street had been absolved of ruining millions of people's lives, and Obama's immaculate PR campaign gave it all a thin veneer of IDpol to make it palatable. As the gentler kinder looking face of the duocracy, obsessed with means testing and openly seeking the bipartisan approval of fascists, I've been calling them the Vichy Dems for a few years now.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@trochee For once, Imma blame the spell checker. :) Usually it IS me, but this time I just clicked that button.
Jeremy Kahn
🎶 You say arpeggio, I say archipelago
🎵 Let's call the whole thing off
(Agree with everything you're saying, just finding tiny joys in malapropism)
Randy Antifa-la-la-la-la-la-la
@AnarchoNinaWrites The line from Neil Young's "Keep on Rockin' in the Free World" runs through my head whenever I think about this:
"We got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand."
AnarchoNinaWrites
@photoncollector Go fuck yourself.
Great chat.
Colin from Edinburgh, Oklahoma
There is no broadly agreed upon definition of fascism.
I am aware of more than 20 competing definitions.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@photoncollector I am pretty sure "go fuck yourself" was not ambiguous.
You'd like to parse definitions of fascism, and I'd rather dive naked into a swimming pool full of razorblades than bandy wits with the likes of you.
We have nothing else say to each other; now get on yer fucking bike.
Colin from Edinburgh, Oklahoma
@AnarchoNinaWrites
I merely stated a fact.
GNU social JP is a social network, courtesy of GNU social JP管理人. It runs on GNU social, version 2.0.2-dev, available under the GNU Affero General Public License.
All GNU social JP content and data are available under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license.