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rimugú (rimugu@rcsocial.net)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:38:06 JST rimugú

Calling good evil, and evil good.
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:38:02 JST 翠星石
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  @Zergling_man @Yoruka @rimugu >your phone.
  It's not your phone.
  
  Manufacturers/resellers have the ability to stop the device from charging and therefore stopping it from booting up and even going so far to prevent access to mobile networks;
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_7?useskin=monobook#Disabling_of_functionality
  
  >between "connected to wifi" and "connected to wifi (no internet)". The obvious solution is to make some external call and see if it succeeds, but to where?
  It just tries to connect to some google server on the internet and sees if the connect() succeeds.
  
  It's really not worth the effort to work out which specific server, so I didn't bother to check.
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    The Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is a recalled and discontinued Android-based phablet developed, produced and marketed by Samsung Electronics. Unveiled on 2 August 2016, it was officially released on 19 August 2016 as a successor to the Galaxy Note 5. It is Samsung's first phone with a USB-C connector, and the last phone in the Galaxy Note series to have a physical home button. Although it is the sixth main device in the Galaxy Note series, Samsung branded its series number as "7" instead of "6" so consumers would not perceive it as being inferior to the flagship Samsung Galaxy S7, and to prevent confusion about the order of release due to the same release year (2016). The Galaxy Note 7 is an evolution of the Galaxy Note 5 that inherited hardware components and improvements from the Galaxy S7, including the restoration of expandable storage and IP68 water resistance, and new features such as a dual-sided curved display, support for high-dynamic-range (HDR) color, improvements to the bundled stylus and new software features which utilize it, an iris recognition system, and a USB-C port. Demand for the Galaxy Note 7 upon launch was high, breaking...
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:38:04 JST Zergling_man
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  @Yoruka @rimugu I'm still curious about how android (any rom) manages to determine the difference between "connected to wifi" and "connected to wifi (no internet)". The obvious solution is to make some external call and see if it succeeds, but to where? There's no information about this online.
  I could probably figure it out in a suitably captured environment.
  
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:38:05 JST 夜化
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  @rimugu they be bitching but meanwhile Google tracks your location occasionally on stock android and sends it to Google without your consent even when you turn off location on your phone.
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:43:45 JST 翠星石
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  @Zergling_man @Yoruka @rimugu >There's a big ass list of every single IMEI floating around, but you're not allowed to have it.
  >There's even a blacklist; https://www.gsma.com/about-us/regions/latin-america/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IMEI-Database-Overview.pdf
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:46:02 JST 翠星石
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  @Zergling_man @Yoruka @rimugu >Good thing my fone doesn't get updates :^)
  If it has a SIM card, chances are that SIM will gladly run any Java program the mobile network sends to it.
  
  Mobile chipsets appear to be the same, except just not Java.
  
  Manufacturers/resellers tend to only ever release one or two updates that actually add functionality and then drop the device, although they're ready to push purely malicious updates out at any times.
  
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:46:04 JST Zergling_man
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  @Suiseiseki @rimugu @Yoruka Good thing my fone doesn't get updates :^)
  Of course, I don't trust that the software it is currently running is not hostile to me, it's a fone after all.
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:52:47 JST 翠星石
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  @Zergling_man @Yoruka @rimugu "Aeroplane mode" just requests that the mobile chipset goes into a low power mode.
  
  Maybe it keeps transmitting (demonstrating with certainty that it's perfectly safe to blast away with any transmitter on an aeroplane no matter what the regulatory requirements are), but it'll be trivial to just have it listening passively for fresh proprietary malware to execute.
  
  On most devices you cannot turn the GPS chip off - all you can do is request that it goes into a low power mode (on old devices this low power mode would not maintain GPS lock and it takes up to 15 minutes to get precise location lock, but on newer devices GPS lock is maintained no problem and precise location takes seconds to lock).
  
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 15:52:48 JST Zergling_man
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  @Suiseiseki @rimugu @Yoruka >used to identify the device when it is used on a GSM mobile phone network.
  🤔
  I keep my radios disabled constantly. I don't believe it really disables the radios.
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:09:12 JST 翠星石
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  @Zergling_man @Yoruka @rimugu >which is supposed to disable all comms?
  Toggling the option disables Wi-Fi and Bluetooth too, but from devices since 10+ years ago you can go re-enable Wi-Fi&Bluetooth without disabling "aeroplane mode".
  
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:09:13 JST Zergling_man
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  @Suiseiseki @rimugu @Yoruka > "Aeroplane mode" just requests that the mobile chipset goes into a low power mode.
  Is that American thing where they call disabling radios "aeroplane mode", instead of actual "aeroplane mode" which is supposed to disable all comms?
  But yeah, hardly surprising that it doesn't really disable it.
  
  >it'll be trivial to just have it listening passively for fresh proprietary malware to execute.
  That makes sense.
  
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  djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:19:25 JST djsumdog
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  Is it your phone if you use Lineage+microG, never connect it to a Google account, use DavX5 + Radicale (calendar/contacts), and K9 (I guess Thunderbird now 🤢) connected to your own e-mail server?
  I know your ISP will still sell you location data (for the extra paranoid, prepaid plans with cash only refill, but I still use a card; not that hardcore), but it's still a lot better than stock ...
  The obvious solution is to make some external call and see if it succeeds
  Yea it's a Google address, even on most of the roms. I had it noted down somewhere. It can probably be changed when building Android.
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:21:24 JST 翠星石
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  @Yoruka @rimugu @Zergling_man >it doesn't show its location even tough Google does know its location.
  google probably only bothers to work out the rough location (±50m), as it really doesn't need more accurate for most cases, which isn't really useful for mapping tbh.
  
  Why would google let people know that they track the location with location services off?
  
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:21:25 JST 夜化
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  @Zergling_man @Suiseiseki @rimugu on stock android if you disable location it's keeps shilling on how useful it is and why you should keep it on. it can still track your location occasionally without your consent but if you lost your phone it doesn't show its location even tough Google does know its location.
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:21:26 JST Zergling_man
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  @Suiseiseki @rimugu @Yoruka Right.
  I just disable the radios directly, which I'm confident is no different in terms of what it actually does (or doesn't, rather), but it's less hassle, since I don't ever enable them again.
  
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  djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:23:54 JST djsumdog
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  What's wrong with microG? I've run into very little I give a shit about that will run with it.
  
  I'm talking about the fake GServices, not the micro-google-apps package.
  
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:23:56 JST Zergling_man
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  @djsumdog @Suiseiseki @Yoruka >microg
  lol
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:24:16 JST 翠星石
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  @djsumdog @Yoruka @Zergling_man >for the extra paranoid, prepaid plans with cash only refill
  That doesn't help - the IMEI is always the same and any past IMSI or location that ties the IMEI to your identity means that it is always tied to your identity, no matter how much you change the IMSI via new SIM cards.
  
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  djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:25:32 JST djsumdog
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  True. I mean you can only do so much .. 🤷♂️
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:29:43 JST 翠星石
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  @Zergling_man @Yoruka @rimugu google play services is a "/system app", thus going to the filesystem and manually removing it breaks the SELinux rules and thus the device no longer boots.
  
  There is root software that allows removing "/system apps" like https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.sunilpaulmathew.debloater/ that sets the SELinux rules correctly and usually doesn't brick booting.
  
  Removing google play services is quite hard as it's pretty much a rootkit, but once you do, the device runs twice as fast and uses half the memory.
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:29:44 JST Zergling_man
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  @rimugu @Suiseiseki @Yoruka I did an experiment once of denying play services permission to basically everything, and it's true, basically all of the core functions stopped working. I think I also forcibly uninstalled it and wrecked my system.
  
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:29:45 JST Zergling_man
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  @Yoruka @rimugu @Suiseiseki yeah lmao
  
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:29:46 JST 夜化
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  @Zergling_man @Suiseiseki @rimugu and not to mention
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:30:51 JST 翠星石
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  @Yoruka @djsumdog @Zergling_man Why would you even want the degeneracy of notifications?
  
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:30:53 JST 夜化
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  @Zergling_man @djsumdog @Suiseiseki aren't notifications fucked without Google Play services?
  
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:30:54 JST Zergling_man
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  @djsumdog @Suiseiseki @Yoruka I have never once installed microg. I have never seen the need. It's literally just a crutch for running garbage software. Anything decent doesn't depend on jewgle shit in the first place.
  
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  djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:31:27 JST djsumdog
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  My tablet doesn't have it, phone does ... phone is from 2019 and only connects to LTS like 20% of the time ... when I replace it I'll see if I can skip microG. You're right; probably don't need it anymore.
  
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  djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:32:27 JST djsumdog
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  You need to train your family better. Are they housebroken?
  
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:32:28 JST 夜化
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  @Suiseiseki @djsumdog @Zergling_man because my family keeps complaining how I don't react to messages within 0.591 seconds
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:33:25 JST 翠星石
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  @Yoruka @djsumdog @Zergling_man They can cope and seethe and call if it's urgent (which you can usually ignore), or send an email and wait for you to respond.
  
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  djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:36:58 JST djsumdog
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  It can also add half a day or more of battery life
  
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:37:00 JST 夜化
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  @Suiseiseki @djsumdog @Zergling_man OK sure I'll free up 1gb of storage on my phone
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  @Yoruka @djsumdog @Zergling_man Yes, it is better for many people if they didn't have to use computers, but of course companies and businesses have joined forces in the satanic ritual of forcing proprietary computing onto people.
  
  Sending an email is really far easier than modern proprietary cr...app degeneracy, which is ultra-complicated, while all you really need to send an email is netcat (to based email servers only).
  
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:37:28 JST 夜化
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  @Suiseiseki @djsumdog @Zergling_man I'm sure my mother doesn't even know how to send a fucking email I swear those people never needed to be forced to use technology
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:39:00 JST 翠星石
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  @Yoruka @djsumdog @Zergling_man That does not uninistall it - you cannot actually remove a /system cr...app via settings.
  
  All that happens is on re-boot it re-configures itself into rootkit-hidden mode.
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:40:24 JST 翠星石
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  @Yoruka @djsumdog @Zergling_man Even if you desire getting played by installing all the proprietary malware (don't), you don't need the google played store to do so; https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.aurora.store/
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:40:25 JST 夜化
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:42:03 JST 翠星石
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  @Yoruka @djsumdog @Zergling_man Yes, it removes its 1GB cache or whatever, but it's larger than 1GB.
  
  Do you seriously think a /system cr...app cannot always connect to the internet?
  
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  夜化 (yoruka@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:42:05 JST 夜化
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  @Suiseiseki @djsumdog @Zergling_man idc I got rid of the 1gb and it also doesn't connect to the internet
  
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  翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:43:23 JST 翠星石
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  @Zergling_man @djsumdog @Yoruka >load lineage + conversations + subwaytooter + maybe jerboa + whatever mail client + UP etc., premake accounts on all my shit, and then just give it to my family, and be like "here, this is family chat".
  Why go to all that trouble when you can just use XMPP and install free XMPP clients onto whatever devices?
  
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  Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2024 16:43:24 JST Zergling_man
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  @Yoruka @Suiseiseki @djsumdog It's true.
  I need to grab a bunch of shitty fones or something cheap, load lineage + conversations + subwaytooter + maybe jerboa + whatever mail client + UP etc., premake accounts on all my shit, and then just give it to my family, and be like "here, this is family chat".
  
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