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   Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 07:58:46 JST Janneke

   • Free Software Foundation

   New blog post

   https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2024/hurd-on-thinkpad/

   #GNU #Guix #Hurd #Thinpad
   @fsf
   @nlnet

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     Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 15:55:32 JST Janneke

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     • Free Software Foundation
     • Vivien (toujours dans le déni)

     @gugurumbe @fsf @nlnet that configuration is for the Guix/Linux system that was used to 'guix system install' the Guix/Hurd system from.

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     Vivien (toujours dans le déni) (gugurumbe@mastouille.fr)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 15:55:34 JST Vivien (toujours dans le déni)

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     • Free Software Foundation

     @janneke @fsf @nlnet why is there an ext4 partition, if Hurd only supports ext2?

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     Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 20:13:38 JST Janneke

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     • Khleedril

     @khleedril @fsf @nlnet Thanks!

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     Khleedril (khleedril@cyberplace.social)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 20:13:39 JST Khleedril

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     • Free Software Foundation

     @janneke @fsf @nlnet Outstanding!

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     Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 04:05:32 JST Janneke

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     • Arne Babenhauserheide
     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire @nlnet
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     M. Grégoire (mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 04:05:33 JST M. Grégoire

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     @janneke
     This is very exciting. Congratulations on the years of work by the #Guix and #Hurd teams.

     Is someone really working on adding audio? I see that @nlnet has approved funding, but I don't see the name of the developer...

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     Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Nov-2024 05:26:06 JST Arne Babenhauserheide

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     • M. Grégoire

     @janneke I worked on a step on the way, but there are more steps that I couldn’t take because they would have clashed with work others were doing. So I added one component: fine grained userspace access control to any node.

     @mpjgregoire @nlnet

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     Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 20:42:14 JST Arne Babenhauserheide

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     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire Yes, but since when I could get going we got the info that the other group already worked on the audio drivers via the rump drivers, the responsible person at nlnet and me decided together to retarget the project to a smaller scope. See https://nlnet.nl/project/Hurd-Audio/

     > fine-grained access management to physical hardware.

     I had expected that the audio-device itself would get done independent of that: the proof of concept already existed:
     https://github.com/dm0-/hurd-rump-audio

     @janneke @nlnet

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     M. Grégoire (mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 20:42:15 JST M. Grégoire

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     • Arne Babenhauserheide

     @ArneBab
     So were you the one who received the grant?

     @janneke @nlnet

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     Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 20:44:22 JST Arne Babenhauserheide

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     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire My part of getting audio done is the deferred authorization translator, so when something tries to access the microphone or speakers, you are asked whether to allow that:
     https://www.draketo.de/software/hurd-authorization-translator

     @janneke @nlnet

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     M. Grégoire (mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 21:03:37 JST M. Grégoire

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     • Arne Babenhauserheide

     @ArneBab
     So you completed your task of creating a permissions system to use the microphone and speakers, but the part that would allow PulseAudio to actually stream to /dev/audio was not completed, is that right?

     And now the Linux world has moved onto Pipewire for the audio system.

     Well, I'll be optimistic. This is probably the sort of thing that, once more people are running the #Hurd on Real Iron, will get finished quickly.

     @janneke @nlnet

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     Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 21:03:37 JST Arne Babenhauserheide

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     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire yes.

     The rump kernel should still work, I hope.

     I did not follow it in the past few years, because I was all too flooded with other things …

     The good thing is that the permissions system works directly on filesystem nodes, so it should be independent of the audio-muxer used.

     @janneke @nlnet

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     Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2024 21:10:37 JST Arne Babenhauserheide

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     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire I think this is the usual case for the Hurd, that most of the hard parts are already mostly working, but they need polish and integration. That’s also work, but does not require wizardry. It requires the persistence to put it all together and make the result enjoyable and easy to set up (or integrated already, so it’s set up by default).

     @janneke @nlnet