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   Steph •ᴗ• (steph@fedi.steph.tools)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:19:36 JST Steph •ᴗ•

   https://xkcd.com/1168/

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:19:35 JST SuperDicq

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     @steph@fedi.steph.tools I don't know tar commands by heart. On the daily I use Ark to open archive files?

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:23:28 JST SuperDicq

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     @steph@fedi.steph.tools You do need to specify the algorithm you want to use if you want to create an archive tho, it doesn't autodetect it based on filename I believe.

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     Steph •ᴗ• (steph@fedi.steph.tools)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:23:30 JST Steph •ᴗ•

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     @SuperDicq I dont know why people struggle with tar, it can figure out what flags to use itself, just do "tar extract file"

     tar xf filename.tar.gz

     it uses the file extention to find the correct (de)compression format to use

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:25:24 JST SuperDicq

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     @steph@fedi.steph.tools Windows still doesn't have tar support out of the box? There's literally zero excuse, it is an free standard.

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     Steph •ᴗ• (steph@fedi.steph.tools)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:25:26 JST Steph •ᴗ•

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     @SuperDicq yeah fair but I almost never create archives anyways

     and if I do I need to use .zip because windows people :/

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:25:57 JST SuperDicq

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     @steph@fedi.steph.tools Just use Ark

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     Steph •ᴗ• (steph@fedi.steph.tools)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:25:59 JST Steph •ᴗ•

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     @SuperDicq I have many more problems with remembering how to use zip because there are like 3 versions and zip is a separate binary from unzip but you can unzip with zip too and aaa-

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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:31:23 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @SuperDicq @steph that would involve doing something useful and good, and microsoft stopped doing that circa 2000
     
     idk maybe everyone who were good and skilled died in 9/11 or something
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:32:18 JST SuperDicq

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     @hj@shigusegubu.club @steph@fedi.steph.tools Microsoft never "good"

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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:32:30 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @SuperDicq @steph 95 was good
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:38:03 JST SuperDicq

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     @hj@shigusegubu.club @steph@fedi.steph.tools I too have nostalgia for the Windows 9x era because that's what I used at the time but I still realise it was proprietary crap now.

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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 02:49:53 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @SuperDicq @steph it was proprietary crap but among alternatives at the time it was pretty good, even if it was somewhat based on Norton Desktop. Pretty much everything back then was proprietary, as GNU and Linux were emerging at the time with maybe BSD being more open than the rest.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 16:18:07 JST 翠星石

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     @steph tar --version
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 16:19:38 JST 翠星石

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     @hj @steph @SuperDicq windows 95 was not good - it was a garbage GUI tacked on top of MS-DOS that would crash all the time.
     
     The Church of Emacs was a much better experience.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 16:33:44 JST 翠星石

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     @hj @steph @SuperDicq The BSD's were proprietary at that time.
     
     It was rms and other asking them to consider making it free that resulted in them becoming partially free; https://www.gnu.org/licenses/bsd.en.html (there is a better source about requests with other BSDs that I can't find now).
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 18:08:08 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Suiseiseki @steph @SuperDicq the point is that it was a good GUI that is also easily accessible to average consumers.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 18:20:23 JST 翠星石

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     @hj @steph @SuperDicq I've had the misfortune of trying it - it's not a good GUI.
     
     You should only use a computer if you are willing to learn the necessary skills to use it, otherwise you shouldn't use one - therefore making computers "accessible" was and is always a mistake.
     
     Running software on a computer doesn't consume the software.
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 18:22:03 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Suiseiseki @steph @SuperDicq i don't mean "accessible" as in "easy to understand and use", I mean "accessible" as in "average joe could pick it up at the store or it was preinstalled by OEM"
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 18:28:50 JST 翠星石

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     @hj @steph @SuperDicq I would refer to that as predatory and anticompetitive behavior, considering that microsoft took every effort to ensure only really their malware was available from the store or preinstalled.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 18:35:59 JST 翠星石

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     @EdBoatConnoisseur @steph @SuperDicq @hj Later updates to windows 95, before 98 and "ME" included internet explorer and shilled "web apps" via microsoft's "network".
     
     98 was made to not even boot unless components of internet explorer were installed, which made it "web browser centric".
     
     Really, it should have been clear what was happening when CE, ME and then NT was released to make CEMENT (the contents of the barrel you are shoved into, which is then allowed to cure to make concrete).
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     EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 18:36:00 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     @Suiseiseki @hj @steph @SuperDicq the only thing worse than windows 95 was windows me as iirc that was the one that wanted to be web browser centric and all about web-apps.

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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 21:13:04 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Suiseiseki @steph @SuperDicq @EdBoatConnoisseur i didn't say anything about later updates, 98 or Me/NT, although NT hypothetically was initially a "better" 95 but barely anyone seen it but the corporates
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     Emi Yusa (gnuxeava@fedi.absturztau.be)'s status on Monday, 18-Nov-2024 21:13:10 JST Emi Yusa

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     @hj @steph @SuperDicq windows ships with bsdtar
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