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   shrimped sam :neofox_flag_lesbian: :therian: (sam@mk.woem.space)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:12:22 JST shrimped sam :neofox_flag_lesbian: :therian:

   it is morally correct to steal memes from twitter users rather than linking the site

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:12:20 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space You can still credit the author without posting a link to a website that forces you to run proprietary javascript and collects your personal data tho.

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     (NekoSock) Miya Ironami (iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:12:21 JST (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

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     @sam@mk.woem.space personally I would say it's not. If I have respect to the author, I'd link to them even if they're on a shitty site I hate

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:14:14 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space Yes, that's fine but most Nitter instances are unfortunately broken nowadays. For example whenever I post a Youtube link I try to post an Invidious link instead.

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     (NekoSock) Miya Ironami (iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:14:15 JST (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

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     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo @sam@mk.woem.space if one is available yeah, maybe it's okay to use those alternative X frontends

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:19:23 JST 翠星石

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami
     @SuperDicq @iro_miya @sam >but most Nitter instances are unfortunately broken nowadays.
     https://xcancel.com/ works fine, without JavaScript too.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:20:04 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space I said most, not all.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:26:27 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space Memes are kinda special I think. Technically speaking every meme reposted online can be considered copyright infringement, because most likely you did not get explicit permission from the author to repost that meme.
     
     But because of the culture and history surrounding memes this is one of the most socially accepted forms of copyright infringement ever.
     
     While no exception in the law exists for memes, we as a society collectively treat memes like they are public domain works.
     
     Everyone seems to accept this, and nobody ever asks "why are people still making memes without an enforceable copyright incentive?" People always do this when it comes to other types of media, which tells me a lot about their hypocrisy when it comes this kind of stuff.
     
     It's strange to me why we treat certain types of media different when it comes to copyright online, even though the law stays the same. Even on the most proprietary and centralized social media websites you can still repost memes and they will not care.
     
     But then for example when it comes to music or something they will literally have a super advanced automated copyright enforcement checkers running that removes your post for using 2 seconds of a piece of music.

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     (NekoSock) Miya Ironami (iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:26:28 JST (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

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     @sam@mk.woem.space on the other hand, memes tend to be this kind of low effort works where attribution is often not deemed to be that important.
     
     For something like an artwork, I'd definitely seek to link the author, wherever they are. For a meme though, depends how much work was put into it

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:31:32 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space The reason why I think the copyright infringement for online memes is socially acceptable has everything to do with its history.
     
     Online memes as a concept originally come from imageboards, where they often get posted and reposted endlessly anonymously. There was no way to ever prove that you made something and there is no way to credit the original creator, that was the intention.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:35:17 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space Did you know that while I do repost a lot of "stolen" memes on the fediverse I also create OC?
     
     If I make OC memes I never say it in my post that I'm the one who made it. I just wanna keep the meme culture public domain and anonymous like it always was.
     
     I don't think this is important when it comes to memes.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:35:17 JST 翠星石

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     @SuperDicq @iro_miya @sam I mean, copyright permission isn't exactly required for parodies.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:35:49 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space Parodies are only a small subsection of memes.

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space Especially with famous meme formats and characters we usually don't even know who the original author is, maybe only after extensive research.
     
     Like nobody knows or can prove who is the original author of famous memes like the Wojak, or Gondola or anything like that really. They just kinda appeared one day, posted by anonymous, and they stuck around.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 20:45:13 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space Except Milhouse. Milhouse will never be a meme.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 21:03:15 JST SuperDicq

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     • (NekoSock) Miya Ironami

     @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be @sam@mk.woem.space People who watermark memes are entitled bitches and deserve death