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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 01:34:28 JST 
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:01:51 JST 
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@BobsonDugnuttHB @sickburnbro Honest question, at what point would such a thing flip and redefine what it means to be Republican, or is it simply "we'll know it when we see it"? I agree that nativism, non-interventionism, and populism aren't Republican values, but they're the reason Zoomers, millennials, and gen X voted red. I know two literal ancaps who have never voted in their lives (they believe it's an expression of violence via forcing your will), and they registered and voted straight red out of rage. Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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BobsonDugnuttHB (bobsondugnutthb@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:01:52 JST 
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@sickburnbro Tangential to your post, but It amazes me people still use the term "RINO". Their near total lack of comprehension of all things political astounds me, even though it really shouldn't at this point.
No, these "RINOs" are not "Republicans in name only" they are, in fact, the true Republicans. It's what the party is and what conservatism is all about.
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:13:11 JST
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@FourOh-LLC @BobsonDugnuttHB @sickburnbro >Amnesty for those who entered the US without permit? Whoever even considers it is NOT a Republican.
You and I may think that, but not too long ago infinite migrants was a "conservative position" because it pushes down wages and provides a consumer crowd analogous to tourists. There was even a clip from a few years back where Bernie Sanders was asked about open borders and replied "huh? That's a right wing position?" because he forgot his political firmware update for a minute. -
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FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:13:12 JST 
FourOh-LLC
Amnesty for those who entered the US without permit?
Whoever even considers it is NOT a Republican. You see how easy it is to see? You do not reward invaders with citizenship, you beat the invaders back and make sure everyone understand what you did and why you did it.
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@BobsonDugnuttHB @FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro to piggyback on the rightmost liberal idea, it has been that way for a long time Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:20:28 JST
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@stoner713 @BobsonDugnuttHB @FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle absolute classic -
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BobsonDugnuttHB (bobsondugnutthb@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:20:29 JST
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@FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro Au contraire, Amnesty is about as Republican as it gets, just ask Reagan.
Republicans may be the rightmost liberals, but they're still a faction of liberals. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:26:00 JST
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@stoner713 @BobsonDugnuttHB @FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle the "keeping in wind" is another way of talking about the "progressive ratchet" or "Cthulhu swims only left" - and shows it to have a good vintage of people noticing it.
But I am sanguine now because liberalism has taken a lot of the mask off and we seem to be having something on an order below the French Revolution where sick and twisted people have publicly spake their earnest desires. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:34:12 JST
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@stoner713 @FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle @BobsonDugnuttHB But yes, it is absolutely possible to redefine what it means to be a Republican. And if the democratic party doesn't learn useful lessons from this election and continues to pursue invaders, criminals and mutilating children there will be a shift in the political parties as has happened once before in the US. -
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@FourOh-LLC @BowsacNoodle @BobsonDugnuttHB @sickburnbro >Whoever even considers it is NOT a Republican.
lol
lmao even
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BobsonDugnuttHB (bobsondugnutthb@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:37:44 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro The party would have to adopt the rhetoric of its actual right wing voters and actually fight for and deliver on those issues for at least one generation for the party to redefine itself.
It was the Republicans who fought Trump harder than anyone in his first term, and who rubber stamped the blatant electoral fraud that kept him out of office the past four years. The Republicans even intentionally gave up a House majority in 2018 just to fuck Trump.
At this point, we're far more likely to see the collapse of the current system in the US than the unsubversion and reformation of the Republicans into a party that represents the people who vote for them. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:37:44 JST
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@BobsonDugnuttHB @BowsacNoodle kathleenkowal.com/portfolio/history-of-political-parties-in-u-s-infographic/ -
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Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:01:14 JST 
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@BowsacNoodle @FourOh-LLC @BobsonDugnuttHB @sickburnbro Amnesty has always been a republican thing. Reagan did it, Bush Jr did as well. BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:03:16 JST
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Might as well tell me that everyone who look mexican must prove they are citizen.
In 1986 about 75% of the applicants who gained legal status under IRCA were from Mexico. The rest came from Cuba, Vietnam, Poland, China, and the Soviet Union. Very few came from Pakistan, Iran, and some North African countries - AKA Muslims.
Anyone who discuss "amnesty" is an out-of-control anti-american, and their primary objective will be to hide the fact that these "immigrants" are fucking opportunistic invaders who flooded across the border in the last 4 years.
This is not an amnesty, this is a surrender, capitulation.BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:03:17 JST
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Go ahead and tell me that the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986, and whatever you call "Amnesty" this time around is comparable.
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:09:44 JST
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@FourOh-LLC @BobsonDugnuttHB @sickburnbro @stoner713 >Might as well tell me that everyone who look mexican must prove they are citizen.
Errrm... based? 😎
In all seriousness, there is a distinction between traditional GOP, Reaganism, and modern problems you mentioned and their reactionary and contra positions. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the ultra free market types love infinite immigration, and some of those types are still in the GOP. They wouldn't care for the reasons previously discussed, and the negative consequences are things the ultra wealthy politicians are largely insulated against or in favor of— services overextension (this accelerates the collapse of public service allowing for Starve The strategies without formal austerity declaration), wage suppression (cheaper goods for all, but proportionately more wealth concentration for the elites), criminality (they live in gated communities and have private security. LoL, LMAO). -
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samjay ganges (samjayganges@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:12:34 JST 
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@BowsacNoodle @BobsonDugnuttHB @sickburnbro Republicans now are doing what Republicans have always done: conserve nothing and normalize formally radical leftists beliefs. Gay marriage was very controversial not that long ago, Obama originally opposed it, and now you have Vivec allowing transgender surgeries for adults and Donald Jr. saying conservatives have the hotter trannies. -
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FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:17:57 JST
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The Republicans aided the invasion, and talking about giving amnesty to anyone this time around is not Republican policy, its something else.
MAGA is not Republican, its an "emergency response". Its the pendulum that will swing back hard.
Part of MAGA is to reject all the bickering about what is right and and what is wrong, and just decide what is necessary.
Mass deportation of the millions who invaded using all sort of resources provided to them, for the sole purpose to provide with a disruptive presence, is absolutely necessary BEFORE any immigration reform.
I will push back on anyone who would try to discredit my explanation, or its context.BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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@FourOh-LLC @BobsonDugnuttHB @BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro You go from amnesty is not republican to it being anti-American. Which is it?
Hart-Cellar was a curse upon America.
Yeah, you def need to get back to the DC Drano reposts.BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:19:24 JST
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@FourOh-LLC @BobsonDugnuttHB @sickburnbro @stoner713 >Part of MAGA is to reject all the bickering about what is right and and what is wrong, and just decide what is necessary.
Maybe. I appreciate functional pragmatism.
>Mass deportation of the millions who invaded using all sort of resources provided to them, for the sole purpose to provide with a disruptive presence, is absolutely necessary BEFORE any immigration reform.
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FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:40:08 JST
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OK, I see your point. Granted.
What I should have wrote is this: any Republican who is talking about amnesty, at this point in time, regarding the imported masses who WOULD NOT BE INSIDE THE US if the NGOs did not invite and supply and advise - is not a Republican.
You are correct, Reagan created the amnesty as part of his policy. I do not argue that, amnesty is Republican, and will be Republican when its part of an Immigration Policy.
Today this is not the case. Talking about "amnesty" is cannot be part of a Republican policy.
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@FourOh-LLC @BobsonDugnuttHB @BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro Look, quit moving your point around. You said that amnesty was not republican and it was pointed out it was. And your argument is some jibberjabber abut how that's not actual republicanism. You argue like a communist saying that's not real communism. -
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FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:40:10 JST
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This time around
Amnesty= Uniparty
You still not seeing the fact that the DNC and the RNC are both compromised.
Again and again, this was an invasion, this was not "migration". This was artificial and inhumane, displaced millions and tortured, killed thousands. What happened in the last few years is a tragedy, and those who designed and manufactured it will face the consequences.
You are talking about MAGA as a proven failure. Maybe wait a few years, no? -
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@FourOh-LLC @BobsonDugnuttHB @BowsacNoodle @sickburnbro Yeah, keep movin those goal posts. MAGA is a fucking sales pitch, not a response. amnesty = republicanism
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