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   TheJen will not comply (thejen@beige.party)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Nov-2024 21:46:05 JST TheJen will not comply

   Upload and create an account on Signal. Nothing else is end to end encrypted that I know of.

   DO NOT have substantive conversations in DMs, email, or sms.

   Your life is now dictated by operational security.

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     j@mastodon (jcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2024 00:49:04 JST j@mastodon

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     Signal servers are hosted by Bezos. Good luck with that.

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 10:18:44 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     Signal is probably safe, but if you don't mind if your messages get through third parties' hands while encrypted, you might as well use XMPP with OMEMO. XMPP is compatible with many kinds of devices, and it doesn't require a tracking device loaded with spyware to set up an account GNU Jami is even better: it is compatible with all major operating systems, you can create accounts anonymously, and your messages are not hosted in a central server, or any server: it's peer to peer, and message delivery only occurs when both parties are online, directly from one to the other, with end-to-end encryption I believe Tox and Briar are like that as well, but I'm not so sure
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     GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 10:30:40 JST GNU Too

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     Matrix, xmpp, scuttlebutt etc. Without having to lock into one non-free server
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     Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw37j1@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 02:40:36 JST Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @lxo I can't agree about Jami, mostly because the actual experience of trying to use it is abysmal. Regular people will quickly abandon it (I know because I tried to get my family members to use it) and go back to centralized proprietary corporate ("corpocentric") services. See: https://gnusocial.jp/notice/7755187
     
     There's a lot of work still to be done before it is at a point where I'd recommend it for anything but techies trying to improve it.
     
     I'm also not sure Jami is available on iOS.
     
     The rest is generally true. There is also Matrix, an ongoing fustercluck, but one that seems generally similar to its corpocentric competition. But one should spend some time in Element-Android and Element-iOS before recommending.
     
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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:11:31 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     • Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     I've responded about your dated and obsolete experience with Ring on the other thread
     
     now, is matrix even end-to-end encrypted? I don't think so, so I didn't mention it in a conversation that was primarily focused on keeping information away from unintended eyes. if it does, maybe it belongs, but I find that Matrix shares far too much information with its servers, and more so with its central server, so I'm not at all comfortable recommending it to people who are trying to minimize their online tracks.
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     Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw37j1@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Sunday, 10-Nov-2024 03:16:49 JST Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
     @lxo They did tack-on E2EE. It is off in any public room, but on by default in private rooms (this probably depends on the client, but with the main Element clients, this is the case).
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