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   cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 10:53:34 JST cipote :bishrexual:
   People who support HRT for children in the same thread with RMS supporters 😭
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 10:53:33 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Can't say I'm surprised at all but how lengthy do you mean?
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 10:53:34 JST anemone

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     @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe i support hrt for children if they go through a lengthy psychiatric screening process first

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 10:56:03 JST iced depresso

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     @teratology @anemone the difficult part is sorting people that genuinely feel this way and will continue to, people that think it'd be fun, and parents pushing it for clout. the benjamin SOC has been highly effective at preventing regret cases (which was also its primary purpose.)
     
     dialing down the gatekeeping carries risk and, well, tribes gonna tribe. conservatives only want to talk about regret cases. blue hairs only want to talk about successes.
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     cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 10:56:04 JST cipote :bishrexual:

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     @anemone I don't really trust psychiatric institutions in general but that combined with the pro-DiY stance seems immoral to me. I'm also against medicating children with anti depressants as well though.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 10:56:43 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Medicine is literally a business like any other and there is always someone willing to take your money no matter how evil and unethical it is
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     pwm (pwm@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 10:56:48 JST pwm

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     @bot @anemone @teratology Until they're 25
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 11:00:25 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     It shouldn't be allowed at all, trooning out is the only mental disorder that is encouraged. I understand that ppl have the disorder and that they suffer but its like trying to get everyone to agree that someones schizophrenic delusions are real so they feel more comfortable about them, its insane and evil.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 11:25:36 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Idk I think its fundamentally a mental disorder but I agree that many of them do develop that hatred and resentment because they know that their life is incredibly broken and incomplete, and the public humiliation that goes along with their choices. That's related to why there are so many of them that spend so much time and energy trying to groom children "eggs", they would prefer to validate being a genetic dead end rather than seeing the condition treated, its a crabs in a bucket thing I think.
     
     The real problem is that the focus is on "affirmation" rather than treatment for political reasons. There are many profoundly sick ppl that are successfully treated, I don't think this condition can't be but there isn't as much money in that ig.
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     cajax (cajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 11:25:37 JST cajax

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     @bot @anemone @pwm @teratology I'm starting to think that all this shit boils down to hate. they hate you, they hate your kids, they hate the idea that you were able to get together as a couple with someone to have them. The primary pleasure they seek in life is depriving others of things like their kids, or the opportunity to have a good relationship with them. A lot of them, if you hear them talk for any length of time, reveal a resentment for kids just for having their lives ahead of them. It's just plain sadism at its root. I think they well know what they're doing. How could they not?
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 11:37:42 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     No, that's just normal therapy and medication, trooning is an entire industry. Trooning is therapy, meds, surgery, revision surgery after the mexican guy messes it up, dilators, constant supply of hormones, constant testing, etc
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     cajax (cajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 11:37:43 JST cajax

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     @bot @anemone @pwm @teratology seems like they could make more money in a legit practice unless they lost their license and ran to a third world country to set up shop (which I have heard of happening at least once)
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     cajax (cajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 11:38:18 JST cajax

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     @anemone @bot @pwm @teratology also bear in mind I'm not saying this represents the who trans "community" or whatever you want to call it. it only takes a few malignant ones getting into positions of power where they can make bold pronouncements on things like "puberty blockers" (castration drugs) and not be held liable because "it's *the science* we all agreed on!"
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 11:38:19 JST anemone

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     @cajax@clubcyberia.co @bot@seal.cafe @pwm@lab.nyanide.com @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe that's propaganda

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     cajax (cajax@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 11:38:19 JST cajax

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     @anemone @teratology @bot @pwm propaganda? nah, this is from experience. haven't you ever met a sadist? especially one who thought he was better than you, from a higher social class than you?

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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 13:28:52 JST anemone

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     @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe i dont think kids should be getting surgeries and i think any medical intervention should be a last resort, but for kids who aren't going to grow out of it, forcing them to just suffer through it for all their formative years is cruel, and a lot of the effects of puberty aren't reversible.

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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 13:28:52 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     Hormone use isn't reversible either, stop pretending like you advocating for literal children to be subjected to horrific hormone treatments is a good thing, GET HELP NOW
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     cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 13:28:53 JST cipote :bishrexual:

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     @anemone tbh idk much about the laws here in cali but ik it's not like Texas or Florida. I'm not against therapy or help for kids or social transition, but even puberty blockers is extreme to me. As much as I don't like my period I would be delusional to pretend that taking my uterus or other organs out wouldn't potentially damage my body, because it has more function than just babies contrary to popular belief.
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 13:28:54 JST anemone

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     @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe if you do nothing you have the risk of people going diy or getting more mentally ill. i think the california rush everything idea some "professionals" seem to go by now is deranged and also ruins people's lives but so does refusing to consider any medical treatment.