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   Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:00:40 JST Rich Felker

   Lazyweb, what's a decent cheap "IP camera" that'd work for pet nannycam use? Absolutely no cloud bs, some sort of simple direct streaming needed and ideally easy to integrate with HA if I ever wanted that. Looking for under-$50 price range.

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     Andrew Zonenberg (azonenberg@ioc.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:13:45 JST Andrew Zonenberg

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     @dalias Most of the random cheap IP security cameras on Amazon have H264 RTSP streams available.

     They do usually have horrible firmware full of cloud BS and require some sketchy windows binary for initial provisioning, but you can set it up from a VM then note the URL of the stream, wipe the VM, and just access the raw stream with zoneminder or VLC or whatever.

     Put it on a subnet with no outbound allowed and you're good to go.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:13:45 JST Rich Felker

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     • Andrew Zonenberg

     @azonenberg *sigh* I was hoping for a little better than "hope it's not an exceptionally bad one and find a sacrificial windows box"...

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     ☠️ Maggot McFear ☠️ (tankgrrl@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:15:40 JST ☠️ Maggot McFear ☠️

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     @dalias I have three of the Amcrest 5MP UltraHD turret cameras, including one that PTZ. They have RTSP and PoE. I have them set up in HA (I use the web interface for the PTZ one, but there is an integration https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/amcrest/ ).

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:17:15 JST Rich Felker

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     • ☠️ Maggot McFear ☠️

     @tankgrrl How bad is provisioning? Do you just point a browser at it to set it up?

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     ☠️ Maggot McFear ☠️ (tankgrrl@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:24:21 JST ☠️ Maggot McFear ☠️

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     @dalias My experience, yes. I plugged them in, found their DHCP IP on my router, then connected to their web interface. There's also an app which, I believe, can locate them for you, but they showed up in my DHCP and the MAC identified as 'Amcrest Technologies" (or hunt MAC address starting with 09)'

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:28:30 JST Rich Felker

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     • Sunflower Björnskalle 🌻

     @apodoxus Yes, just a lot more work to setup and probably harder to find camera with suitable lens...

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     Sunflower Björnskalle 🌻 (apodoxus@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:28:31 JST Sunflower Björnskalle 🌻

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     @dalias Raspberry Pi Zero with Camera would give you a lot of flexibility.

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     laura lemay (lemay@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:47:02 JST laura lemay

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     @dalias We are former geeks intensely paranoid about privacy and we like reolink. Just works out of the box, no cloud, records to SD card, viewable live through an app, can motion/pet/person detect, good reputation in the security cam world. We are not yet using HA but googling indicates it is not hard to set up.

     They have a ~$40 indoor camera for pet nannycam uses. https://www.amazon.com/Reolink-Security-Multiple-Storage-Assistant/dp/B08RS4C67L/

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:47:02 JST Rich Felker

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     • laura lemay

     @lemay How does viewable from app without cloud work??

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:51:58 JST Rich Felker

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     • laura lemay

     @lemay Thanks, this looks really promising. I saw them early in my results but was turned off by the "works with Alexa" 😂 and didn't look at details after that. The "provision via scanning QR" is brilliant UX for a camera.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:54:23 JST Rich Felker

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     • laura lemay

     @lemay Does the stream work on LAN with the internet blocked? Otherwise it's streaming through the provider's servers and virtually impossible to determine if that's e2ee to your viewing device or fully visible to them.

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     laura lemay (lemay@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 05:54:24 JST laura lemay

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     @dalias I guess it depends on your definition of “cloud." The camera does need an internet connection, and then you connect directly to it from the app for a live stream. But there's no video saved to cloud storage anywhere (you can do that with an add-on subscription but it's not required).

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 06:41:50 JST Rich Felker

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     • SamuelJohnson

     @samueljohnson How do you access it?

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     SamuelJohnson (samueljohnson@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 06:41:51 JST SamuelJohnson

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     @dalias Tapo C110 w an SD card.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 07:21:12 JST Rich Felker

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     • SamuelJohnson

     @samueljohnson Ok, C110 is cheap and seems to do RTSP. Is this right? And not too hard to provision and turn off or block cloud afterwards?

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     SamuelJohnson (samueljohnson@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 07:21:13 JST SamuelJohnson

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     @dalias "slow" above refers to using phone away from home Wi-Fi, esp when in a moving vehicle.

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     SamuelJohnson (samueljohnson@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 07:21:14 JST SamuelJohnson

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     @dalias. Mostly via mobile app but I can connect an RTSP stream to things like Synology Surveillance Station recording setup or TV or other things*. If it's ever slow via mobile phone (happens v occasionally) I just switch on Tailscale on my phone (my router is an exit node) and it's as fast as if coming from cloud (I have a gigabit fibre connection).

     *had on old ipad on the wall in kitchen with a web browser to see if there were eggs to be collected