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   Grueproof (grueproof@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 17:29:22 JST Grueproof

   • R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
   • fu
   • pixelherodev

   @fu @pixelherodev @RL_Dane Because I've missed a good deal of this...remind me why we dislike systemd? (I'm unfamiliar with the nuances)

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 00:37:56 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

     • fu
     • pixelherodev

     @fu @pixelherodev @grueproof

     Sure about that? AFAIK, there's no way to do systemd-less #Debian without some MAD hacking.

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 00:37:58 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • pixelherodev

     @pixelherodev @grueproof

     Fair ;)

     I just really loved Debian (hence the avatar), so I tried that.

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     pixelherodev (pixelherodev@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 00:38:00 JST pixelherodev

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     • R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

     @RL_Dane @grueproof I'll be honest: Devuan does not interest me. It used to - I ran it for a bit - but they're just... they talk a lot, let's say.

     There's a number of systemd-free distros. Most of them don't consider that their *only redeeming quality*.

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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 00:38:01 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

     @grueproof

     So many cool things going on:

     #PeerTube: building a video network based on trust, not algorithms. I'm putting my money where my mouth is on this one: going to take my $11.99/no and contribute it to FOSS content creators and platforms
     #NetBSD: still supporting m68k in 2022 — that's amazing!
     #Devuan: keeping Linux systemd-free (if you're into that)
     #Kodi: looking forward to being rid of proprietary TV
     #Mastodon: we're just getting started!
     #OpenBSD: Unix by people who love Unix

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     GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 00:59:01 JST GNU Too
     @grueproof I know I'm in the minority here but GNU Social. I've been an FSF member for well over a decade, but I have never been involved directly with GNU project before, so ta-da!
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     ぐぬ管 (GNU social JP管理人) (gnusocialjp@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 14:52:43 JST ぐぬ管 (GNU social JP管理人)

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     • GNU Too
     @gnu2 I am FSF associate member from 2019 too. Ken Senoo is me. https://www.gnu.org/thankgnus/2022supporters.html
     Donation is critical contribution for everyone.
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     R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd: (rl_dane@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 17:29:21 JST R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

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     • fu
     • pixelherodev

     @grueproof @fu @pixelherodev

     To me, it's millions of lines of monolithic*, unaudited code, designed to basically replace 90% of Linux userspace.
     No thanks.

     *I know it's not ONE program, but it's designed in a pretty interlocking way, and it's making it increasingly hard to use Linux without it.

     It feels really forced and kinda SUS, tbh

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     Pranav ?? (retronav@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 11-Nov-2022 17:30:33 JST Pranav ??

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     • R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:
     • fu
     • pixelherodev

     @RL_Dane May I be so bold to grab this opportunity and share a newer version of a famous copypasta: https://fosstodon.org/@retronav/109280612619546865
     @grueproof @fu @pixelherodev