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@transgrammaractivist @KonataWagner @BowsacNoodle @RadixVerum @boburtle I got reacts. A few days later.
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@TimeSpent @transgrammaractivist @KonataWagner @BowsacNoodle @boburtle Why is it quietly seething all the time? It's unhappy and wants others to be unhappy also. It has no basis for it's absurd and numerous attacks on me, which I did not return in kind except calling it the B word once.
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@RadixVerum @transgrammaractivist @KonataWagner @BowsacNoodle @boburtle I dunno. I just figured it likes attention and doesn't like sharing it.
Some ppl are like that. Socials can do that.
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@RadixVerum @TimeSpent @transgrammaractivist @KonataWagner @boburtle If you show your face and aren't a hideous stoneogre, you are "attention whoring" or an "e-girl" according to a lot of people. I like owl, and from what Iast saw s/he was identifying as a Christian. Honestly people need to be less serious on the web sometimes.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle Additionally, I have no idea why you felt the need to use this as a reason to launch a personal attack on me, which is clearly what this is under the guise of being about you just wanting to defend owl when I never had a problem with you and I still don't. I have no problem with Owl either, I pray for you guys both. Whatever you're really upset about, which I suspect is about vtubers, I apologize. I am not a perfect person but I'm not a bad person and I'm not even a mean person. I love you all.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle I would also add that during this three day dog piling of me, I was called a:
"Blown out whore"
A "negligent mother"
I was told my child should be "taken from me"
I was told I should be "raped"
I had people passing my dox around
I had people DMing me rude comments and inappropriate images, etc.
No one really "came to my defense," not my close friend and former co-host, not my close friends that I knew from before NCD even existed, except Mushroom I believe. I had some people reach out to me privately to say they didn't agree with what was happening and how I was being viciously attacked, I had some people reach out to quietly say they agreed with me.
I had people lying about what I said to try to encourage people to continue dog piling me - this is what owl was trying to do with its cunnyposter comment you shared. Do you condone those comments about me? Do you think that was warranted? And even still after all that I was the one who apologized to everyone for that hellthread, I apologized to each person individually I may have been harsh with also. So, going back to the original point here, owl has continued to attack me and malign my work much after this while I haven't responded or engaged at all and even after my apologies to everyone including owl.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle >So...it's just a joke that you say watching or listening to Vtubers makes you a pedophile, but you made a "thought provoking" thread about how Vtubers promotes pedophilia. Without having seen or listened to any of them in context? Also without realizing that there were Vtubers that were not petite like Gura?
I never said "watching or listening to vtubers makes you a pedophile" and you didn't post one screenshot to back that up except a reply to someone where I was making a joke and that person who I was talking to, can probably back that up as he doesn't have any problem with me.
You keep making this about vtubers when this thread was not even about that -it was about Owl.
My original post was simply "vtubers promote pedophilia" I did not say all vtubers did this, I did not say if you watch vtubers you are a pedo or pedo enabler. I went on to make the distinction between characters who look and sound like adults and ones who do not.
You did not include screen shots of me talking about that or me talking about my concern of children in livechats thinking they are talking to kids their age. That and the ethical pedo stuff is what mainly upset me. There was also one who talked about like loli.
>Was it also a joke when you insinuated in the other screenshot—where someone was explaining what a child looks like in anime culture—could be interested in the 13 year old girls in your neighborhood?
No I was asking a question. I would have to look at the whole thread in context to see the whole thing.
>Also, all the screenshots I've provided, were to prove a point. You asked me for screenshots when I mentioned big boobed Vtubers because you thought I didn't have any. You moved the goalpost to going after people to "did I say they should be banned??" When I posted screenshots of you going after people.
No I asked you for screenshots when you made the initial claim that owl was defending me when I told it to STFU. I asked for the post owl made that I was replying to.
You moved the goalposts from talking about a specific incident with myself and owl - to turn to turn this into another vtuber hellthread bc you know you're more likely to get others to pile on if you do this. You did not post any screenshots of me complaining once about people on fedi posting vtuber content. Owl is the one who moved the goalposts by bringing up cunnyposters which had nothing to do with vtubers and children being in their livechat which was what I was concerned about and the talk of ethical peods. Owl insinuated I was upset with vtubers posters on fedi but not cunny posters. Like I said and which has been established, my complaint wasn't about people on fedi at all it was about content creators who are vtubers. They are on YouTube. I didn't complain about cunnyposters because I can just report them. I didn't think, like I said, I needed to make this a public proclamation.
>And yeah, this thread probably wasn't about Owl, but you made it about her because you were gaslighting about the reason why she can't stand you. You conveniently leave out that you threw shade on her after the apology—which she accepted from you. You lied about her not trying to give advice to you, or liking or supporting you before.
When did owl accept my apology? I never said owl didn't like me before - where did I say that? Show a screen shot. I said owl has unfairly attacked me. You still haven't shown anything where I even said anything bad about owl other than telling it off for trying to hen pick and start drama. After I apologized to Owl I haven't mentioned Owl again, I haven't attacked owl for months like owl has done to me and I never tried to discredit owl as a person.
>You'd already decided to leave over the Vtubing when Owl brought up cunnyposters. As far as she knew, as far anyone else knew, you never had a 3 day meltdown over cunnyposters on NCD before calling it quits. That's not antagonistic mentioning that.
Lmao imagine thinking you have any insight into my thinking or decisions and imagine thinking I give a shit about vtubers and that having anything to do with why I left. If it did, why am I talking about it now? I didn't have a three day meltdown over vtuber posters on fedi.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle My original complaint was about vtubers - not Fedi USERS. I could make my initial post "vtubers and anyone here who watches them is a pedo" if that's what I thought. I didn't, but you already know this. So cunnyposters again was irrelevant to the topic. Cunnyposters aren't on YT as far as I know. They don't have livechats with kids, as far as I know. I was dog piled for days, I had a meltdown bc of the stress I was already under. I thought the feds had people online trying to mess with me. I got paranoid and I had personal reasons for leaving, like I already explained, I didn't want to lash out and I wanted a break. I moved here so there would be less people following me. I'm still on NCD by the way so this is so bizarre and insane.
>You claimed Owl's problem with you was about going onto Tim Pool. It was never about that. You know it. And I came into this thread to call you out on that.
I apologized to Owl for the ONE TIME I lashed out at owl, and it continued to attack me after that. Also I understand parsing context is hard but the point of my post was I have no idea why owl continues to rage at me when I apologized and haven't mentioned them or interacted with them since but owl keeps attacking me even from behind a block refusing to let it go.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle When I made that joke - it wasn't a genuine debate - with whom specifically? Who was I debating with? At that point I don't believe it had turned into a massive hellthread yet and yes, I did. It was a joke. I wanted the screen shot of the post I was REPLYING to that you originally posted. I didn't ask you to grab screen shots to try to control your own narrative. You're the one grabbing random ones from random times in that conversation - it's not even in chronological order.
There isn't a narrative either, there is what this thread was originally talking about - which was Owls attempts to discredit my work and it's continued harassment of me even after I apologized to Owl and everyone else. I admitted that I was under stress and pressure during that time and I was overly sensitive. Why are Owls continued attacks after my sincere apology justified? The most I did to Owl was lash out during a time I was being attacked by tons of people and dog piled. I said sorry to Owl and owl continued to attack me and malign my work.
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So...it's just a joke that you say watching or listening to Vtubers makes you a pedophile, but you made a "thought provoking" thread about how Vtubers promotes pedophilia. Without having seen or listened to any of them in context? Also without realizing that there were Vtubers that were not petite like Gura?
Was it also a joke when you insinuated in the other screenshot—where someone was using Yotsuba to show you what an ACTUAL child character looks like in anime culture—could be interested in the 13 year old girls in your neighborhood?
Also, all the screenshots I've provided, were to prove a point. You asked me for screenshots when I mentioned big boobed Vtubers because you thought I didn't have any. You moved the goalpost to going after people to "did I say they should be banned??" When I posted screenshots of you going after people.
And yeah, this thread probably wasn't about Owl, but you made it about her because you were gaslighting about the reason why she can't stand you. You conveniently leave out that you threw shade on her after the apology—which she accepted from you. You lied about her not trying to give advice to you, or liking or supporting you before.
You'd already decided to leave over the Vtubing when Owl brought up cunnyposters. As far as she knew, as far anyone else knew, you never had a 3 day meltdown over cunnyposters on NCD before calling it quits. That's not antagonistic mentioning that.
You claimed Owl's problem with you was about going onto Tim Pool. It was never about that. You know it. And I came into this thread to call you out on that.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle Yeah I was actually making a joke, which I also said later on in the same thread I believe, but unlike some people, I don't feel the need to screen shot and save all this or even waste my time looking for it.
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So you were making a "joke" in a genuine debate, in a thread you said was to provoke real thought about Vtubers and pedophilia. And you're upset because people called you out on that? Hard to see it as a joke when you never mentioned that...
Oh, but you wanted screenshots to prove what was actually said? So? Did you not want me to provide screenshots because you wanted to have control of the narrative?
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle > You didn't?
Show me where I said someone was a pedophile and should be banned?
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Ohh, so you weren't insinuating anything when you said you weren't a pedophile when someone asked if you've watched or listened to any Vtubers?
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> I never went after anyone for posting vtuber material or accused any person here of promoting pedophilia because they enjoy or watch vtubers
You didn't?
Also yes, Owl has no reason to apologize when you threw shade on her first. You also continue to say that the reason she's upset and says things about you is because you went on Tim Pool. It was never about you going on Tim Pool and you know that.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle Yeah but that's the lie. I have gone after those people, that's what I'm talking about. Owl was not "defending me" as you claimed, she was trying to say I don't go after actual pedophiles when I have done more actual reporting on pedophiles and pedophile networks than Owl has. You didn't have to mention that claim - I brought it up because it was one of a slew of lies people made about me trying to get others to attack me. The actual original post was this "vtubers promote pedophilia" which was meant to be provocative and get people to think. I never said all tubers did this but some do and a lot of them play into this. I was particularly upset about the one who called itself an "ethical pedophile" and was advocating for 12 year old anime waifus. Admittedly I didn't know much about vtubers, but as a mother I was upset. I also made posts saying I didn't have a problem with vtubers who looked like adult characters, I once again, note you haven't included screenshots of that.
This is the issue. I have gone after all pedophiles, there is none I haven't gone after when I see them including anyone who even used the word cunny. I reported one of them to Matty and he got rid of them. This is what owl was lying about.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle Also interesting is Owl here acts like I was going after vtuber posters but not cunny posters. I never want after people who post vtubers stuff here. I didn't go after anyone, I made a statement and a bunch of people dog piled me. I have reported the cunnyposters because that is actually pedo posting but I never went after anyone for posting vtuber material or accused any person here of promoting pedophilia because they enjoy or watch vtubers.
So no, Owls numerous attacks on me were always unprovoked and unfounded. It has continued to trash me and try to discredit my work. I don't think it's justifiable as innocent men sit in prison right now depending on people seeing my work and sharing it. It harms them to try to make up lies about me and attack me for going on platforms with people some don't like who have a large audience that helps me spread and raise awareness. I have no idea why we are back to this, when it shows that owl wasn't being nice to me, wanting trying to defend me or offer me advice. I have never gone after Owl, and I'm not the one who has attacked someone for months from behind a block. I don't use alts to go after people either as some do. I used harsh language with it and apologized and it never apologized for lying and it continues to sorry about me.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle No it wasn't trying to defend me or give me advice. I notice you don't include what it was actually saying, I wonder why.
And I didn't call all vtubers pedo enablers, as a bunch of people tried to claim, nor did I say "anime is pedophilia" which a bunch of people tried to claim I said to get others to dog pile on me.
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Okay, here's what Owl said before you told her to shut the fuck up. She does bring up a good point about you not going after cunnyposters. :senko_poggers:
I also never mentioned anything about the "anime is pedophilia" claim, but yeah, saying "Vtubers promote pedophilia" would sound like to most people, that all Vtubers are the problem. Especially when you had someone explain to you that there were big boobed Vtubers after you made that claim, and you were unaware of their existence.
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@TimeSpent @transgrammaractivist @KonataWagner @BowsacNoodle @boburtle Yes, my crime is helping political prisoners, making a documentary, and doing interviews to raise awareness about the case. It was seething that I went on Tim Pool for some reason, I would go on any big platform because I'm trying to get the word out to help people in a desperate and horrific situation. To use that as an attack vector is bad faith and it knew what it was doing. It tried to malign my work, while it's done nothing. I talk about Jesus and being a mom. What is there to see the about unless you just enjoy seething and pretending to be a special boy. Which is why I tend to lean towards it being a man.
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Didn't this all start when Owl was actually defending you, and trying to give you advice when you were calling Vtubers pedophile enablers, and you lashed out at her over that by saying this? :thunk_butt:
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You stopped posting for a whole week because of a thunderstorm. I don't know if you can be tossing these stones.
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@zucchini @Sui @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @mimic @RadixVerum @TimeSpent @boburtle >Thousands of White people had their lives upturned by a hurricane and deliberate government failures
>a thunderstorm
dramanigger says huhwhat?
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> Sui is a dramanigger.
Yeah ok Spenthussy, pot calling the kettle a nigger there 💅
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle >I never said you didn't apologize for lashing out at her, but you drudged things back up because she said mean things about you before you apologized.
You implied it. You made it sound like owl was defending me and I just randomly lashed out unprovoked.
I didn't drudge it up, owl made a rude comment about cunnyposters without having any information about reports I have made and did this publicly to join in a dog pile. I believed after that owl didn't like me. I apologized to Owl and I asked about it and I would have liked Owl to apologize to me for making that post claiming I didn't care about users I have reported before.
>I will admit that I made a mistake when it came to saying it started because you attacked her when she defended you. You attacked her because she made an offhand comment about not seeing you go against cunnyposters here and having a 3 day meltdown over that. What she said wasn't antagonistic, but you got butthurt because she didn't know you reported cunnyposters and lashed out at her? After you said you were leaving?
Yes, you were wrong then tried jumping all over the place and making this about vtubers and big boobs.
What she said was antagonistic and I'm sure other people would agree. I said I was leaving because I was under stress and upset and once again for the 1000th time I apologized. People kept taking that post of me saying I'm leaving - and tried to hound me off the platform.
>I provided a screenshot of Owl trying to give you advice when you said she never tried doing that. You also seem to hold to the lie that she didn't accept your apology despite me providing a screenshot for that too. She wasn't the one who tried drudging things back up, that was you.
You showed owl giving me advice and me being courteous.
>So you need more context for the reason why you asked a grown man if he would be interested in the 13 year old girls in your neighborhood? Do you normally ask people that?
I asked that because I had "grown men" DMing me pics like that and saying inappropriate things. I had one person say they were sexually attracted to a child character from Pokemon, so yes I asked the question because I didn't know what kind of person I was dealing with and I was incredibly upset about the things people were saying.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle You get upset with me for making 1 post about vtubers without having encyclopedic knowledge of the topic while you claimed last night to "know" why I left NCD. You commented on something as if you knew it, that you couldn't possibly know except what I said publicly which you never shared the screenshot on.
The fact is, I made a post that turned into a hellthread and I apologized to everyone. I never had any problems with anyone on fedi before that, or pretty much since then. I had a few people who after I left NCD immediately follow my Poast because they wanted to troll me, Sui and some others. So I immediately blocked a few people because I was already stressed and I didn't want to deal with more stress. I have had my house raided, I am monitored online. Everything I say goes into a file. There could be numerous informants sent to fedi to specifically try to get me to say something that could be twisted or used against me.
I'm sorry you don't understand what I was going through and am going through. You have offered zero grace or compassion throughout this entire "conversation" which has been you clapping at me over something from months ago under the guise of defending Owl. I apologized to you last night, which you did not respond to. I said I have no problem with you or Owl and that I love you both.
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@RadixVerum @mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @boburtle Sorry dude but Sui is a dramanigger. Dramaniggers see chum in the water they will circle. Everytime. They don't care about you or the other side they just want drama. Don't like dramaniggers? Mute them.
Owl is muggie adjacent. Dogpiling is what they do. It's what they enjoy together on fedi. They don't care about the fight either. They just enjoy fighting (I call it fighting. More like trolling extensively).
Neither of these I enjoy so I stick to nonesense and art.
There is always going to be ppl too far up each others butt here. That's the beauty and the horror of fedi.
Just don't let ppl bait you into engaging. Their goal is to make you get emotional and leave. Don't give them the satisfaction. Stick to ppl you like and pretend the others don't exist.
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@mimic @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @BowsacNoodle @TimeSpent @boburtle We will go through this line by line:
Here is the original post that you came to comment on. I say here that my crime (this was in response to talking about Owl continuing to trash me while I am not trashing Owl back and after I apologized. I said my crime (for why Owl hasn't dropped it and keeps saying negative things about me) was helping political prisoners and going on Tim Pool and trying to help people) this was after the vtuber stuff, after my apologies to Owl and everyone else. Why don't you show any of those posts?. You have once again done chery picking and you did grab all the screen shots of the back and forths and you didn't include any of the screenshots of owl sniping at me after I apologized to Owl and everyone else. You also left out a lot of the screen shots of what people were saying to me.
I did apologize to Owl and to others. Owl was trying to continue to do what Owl does, gaslighting you that they are "on your side" while suggesting that you are trying to do things you were not trying to do. Like owls claims that I was "pedo jacketing" anyone, I was not.
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Before you said that, you said..."Owl has no basis for attacks on you."
She does, you shit on her.
I never said you didn't apologize for lashing out at her, but you drudged things back up because she said mean things about you before you apologized.
I will admit that I made a mistake when it came to saying it started because you attacked her when she defended you. You attacked her because she made an offhand comment about not seeing you go against cunnyposters here and having a 3 day meltdown over that. What she said wasn't antagonistic, but you got butthurt because she didn't know you reported cunnyposters and lashed out at her? After you said you were leaving?
I provided a screenshot of Owl trying to give you advice when you said she never tried doing that. You also seem to hold to the lie that she didn't accept your apology despite me providing a screenshot for that too. She wasn't the one who tried drudging things back up, that was you.
So you need more context for the reason why you asked a grown man if he would be interested in the 13 year old girls in your neighborhood? Do you normally ask people that?
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Yeah, this is about Owl, but I am calling you out for trying to deflect what you said after saying you DIDN'T EVER going after anyone in the Vtuber debacle. You keep twisting the narrative for your own gain.
> I never said "watching or listening to vtubers makes you a pedophile" and you didn't post one screenshot to back that up except a reply to someone where I was making a joke and that person who I was talking to, can probably back that up as he doesn't have any problem with me.
Hmm, I posted that screenshot in response to this.
> I never went after anyone for posting vtuber material or accused any person here of promoting pedophilia because they enjoy or watch vtubers
And if that snippet isn't good enough, I can always post one with more context, and you can try to explain that your insinuation there was just a "joke." What the heck, I'll go ahead and post it :02shrug:
> My original post was simply "vtubers promote pedophilia" I did not say all vtubers did this, I did not say if you watch vtubers you are a pedo or pedo enabler. I went on to make the distinction between characters who look and sound like adults and ones who do not.
You only made that distinction after someone explained to you that there were big boobed vtubers. Do I need to post that screenshot again? You posted a "provocative thread meant to encourage thought" on a subject you knew next to nothing about and got mad when you got called out on it.
> No I asked you for screenshots when you made the initial claim that owl was defending me when I told it to STFU. I asked for the post owl made that I was replying to.
I did, in fact, supply that screenshot :animu_okie: but-okay, I see now-you also commented about how you "noticed" I didn't post a screenshot of your "not all Vtubers." Nah, I just posted the screenshot with the context showing you had no idea big boobed vtubers existed before you made that comment.
> You did not include screen shots of me talking about that or me talking about my concern of children in livechats thinking they are talking to kids their age.
No I didn't because we were talking about Owl. The screenshot about big boobed vtubers was to provide context about you not knowing much about them at all when you started your "thought provoking" thread. The reason for providing the "I'm not a pedophile" screenshot has been explained above. As far as asking Goalkeeper if he would be into the 13 year old girls on your street because they look like Yotsuba: at best you were snarking him for calling you out for insinuating Gura was intentionally trying to be pedo bait; you genuinely suspected him of being a pedophile. You don't just casually ask a grown man if he's into kids. ;)
The reason why I haven't posted any screenshots of that is because I'm addressing your attitude. You didn't know anything about Vtubers, Owl had kept advising you, and tried to diffuse some of the situations you got yourself into over this because you refused to listen. You insinuated multiple times with users that they were pedophiles if they watched or listened to someone like Gura, because they were calling you out. They weren't even being rude to you.
You said the cunnyposters don't matter, but yet you felt the need to attack Owl over it, despite saying you were leaving. As far as she knew, you never went after cunnyposters, as you said, you've never talked about it, yet you decided to tell her to fuck off when what she said wasn't even antagonistic.
Yeah, she accepted your apology. Here are the screenshots of them too, where she tried to counsel and help you again.
And then you were the one who tried to drudge things back up with her for no reason. You were the one who blocked her as soon as you moved to Poast for literally no reason and shit on her!
And you talk about how she "starts" things up with you? Gee, maybe she doesn't like you because of how you treated her after she supported you, thought you were friends. And now you're going around slandering her.
You lied about her not accepting your apology, you lied about her not giving you advice or defending you in her own way. You're trying to play off the "I'm not a pedophile" comment as a joke because you know it doesn't make you look good.
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@Sui @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @mimic @BowsacNoodle @RadixVerum @boburtle I was insulting you or chudbuds or talking about anything specific to you. I was telling the girl that named YOU in particular just to mute you if she doesn't like it. Solid advice....you know not worth it. I'm not getting sucked into this.
Stack more shit on me. The world turns as my whim and not one elses.
Everything that has ever happened in the history of time is probably my doing. I am a super villian.
Still not going to hate you or talk shit. Have a nice day.
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@Sui @KonataWagner @transgrammaractivist @mimic @BowsacNoodle @RadixVerum @boburtle You're a chudbud and a metokur crew dude. I did realize you would be offended by what your ppl call themselves. Oh well. Point being, you enjoy what you enjoy.
She just shouldn't take your words to heart. You enjoy stirring pots. Everyone is entitled to do as they please. You included.
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Chudbuds died a year and a half ago, it lasted like 6 months, get over that shit. Metokur's not on fedi either, that's also been months.
Should we tally up? I downloaded a modpack, you blew up how many instances? How many DFEs? Your cunt is a drama vortex. I've muted you to keep out of your next one, good luck Dan btw, I wonder if he can see the bridges burning from the rear view yet.
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