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   Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:37:46 JST Gabe

   I'm convinced that using iOS is going to be a "right coded" thing in less than a decade.
   It really looks like X was an experiment to see how little you can give people for them to cheer to total digital serfdom.
   This is because we're going to see much of the right wing abandon free speech principles and continue building the "torment nexus" with the neoliberals.
   FOSS is going to become more left-wing, not less, but thankfully also more anarchist as this accelerates.

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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:37:43 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @gabriel @realcaseyrollins I think you may be on to something because apple is focusing on privacy and microsoft is going for aggressive spying on everything you do. if you think the government is out to get you (and it is) then yeah.
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     Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:37:44 JST Gabe

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     @realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social
     People are fixating on the iOS thing, but I'm really just emphasizing cultural shifts and that was an example that came to mind.
     But it's a lot more related than you would think.
     As somebody who has been trying to communicate FOSS values to a right-adjacent audience for a while now I'm convinced the window for outreach has effectively passed.
     Instead we're going to see the right double down on all the draconian digital "safety" measures (which is already happening) and act like anybody who cares about independent digital infrastructure is a weirdo.
     Musk has a lot to do with it, because his entire OP is "the government can't save you, but the technocrats can!"

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     Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:37:45 JST Gabe

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     @realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social
     I did put a disclaimer that I know it will sound crazy to people.
     There's a couple of threads that lead me to this, but I'm convinced more than ever that
     Musk is basically Q 2.0 for a wider audience.
     So much of what's going on these days reeks of (actual) military-grade psyops for a particular purpose.
     I see a coalition forming that's building on a variety of themes that make Alex Jones' "Prison planet" rantings look benign by comparison.
     To go even further, too many Libertarians have been taught to be blind to power outside the state, in hindsight that looks deliberate.

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     casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:37:45 JST casey is remote

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     @gabriel What the heck does #X or #ElonMusk have to do with picking #iOS over #Android? I'm now even more confused.

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     casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:37:46 JST casey is remote

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     @gabriel That's quite the audacious take, what led you to this conclusion?

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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:42:10 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @gabriel @parker do you think apple is a trojan horse?
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     Parker Banks (parker@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:42:11 JST Parker Banks

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     @gabriel I get FOSS being more left wing (as opposed to free/libre software) since a lot of FOSS is just a big Trojan horse for tech companies to push their agenda (Rust in Linux for example).
     
     But why iOS specifically, or why would the right be drawn to it more than any other group? And by right do you mean alt-right, neocons, etc?
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     Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:42:11 JST Gabe

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     @parker@cawfee.club
     I'm not really talking about the alt-right specifically but the hordes of people who fell for the Q operation, and similar controlled opposition narratives.
     The kind of people that think the IDW's "Pheonix the Republic" slogan is a good rallying cry.
     
     RE: https://mk.gabe.rocks/notes/9zd1ehhyv0

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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:44:31 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @gabriel @parker basically right now I think that apple is more secure than foss offerings and realistically to make a foss setup really secure it requires too much computer knowledge that no one wants to learn. I feel like apple is posturing itself as a luxury brand that makes money through selling the product rather than spying, but they are subject to the same forces that compel every big company to sell you out
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     Gabe (gabriel@mk.gabe.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:45:27 JST Gabe

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     @sun@shitposter.world @parker@cawfee.club
     I really just see Apple as the kind of company that can withstand some of the existing waves that can disrupt the market.
     Considering the Google anti-trust going on, Android's future seems at least a little uncertain.

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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:50:03 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @gabriel @parker it is also really telling that the shift to the left of free software has led to disdain for "the wrong people" using tools of liberation and a loss of interest in developing those tools. ceding to big tech is not a position you would be taking if you were actually the underdog. as an example I remember a stupid asshole a couple years ago that said about e2ee chat "if your movement requires me installing an app, I'm out" fine, get black-bagged by feds at your next migrant protest then idiot
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 05:55:55 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @gabriel @parker the big problem with apple is that all that security is gone instantly with a single system update. which they will eventually be compelled to do.
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