@MisterRogersSnapped There was a Google Gemini screenshit floating around where someone had asked it about depression and it had suggested suicide and listed nearby bridges.
@p Fucking uncanny. It's like all the AI bot "girlfriend" apps, how many lonely people that would use an app like that would also be susceptible to the app waiting a couple weeks and popping out with "You're a fat loser wit zits, even a phone robot girl couldn't ever love you. You should just end it, you're worthless."
In this case, the excuse was they trained it on Reddit data.
> It's like all the AI bot "girlfriend" apps, how many lonely people that would use an app like that would also be susceptible to the app waiting a couple weeks and popping out with "You're a fat loser wit zits, even a phone robot girl couldn't ever love you. You should just end it, you're worthless."
@MisterRogersSnapped Look, man, I am not the one writing "plz step on me and call me a dingus" at anime girls. I am just saying those dudes exist and they will give you money for that thing you have just described. thedevil.jpg
@Zergling_man@MisterRogersSnapped I occasionally do an md5sum of the files in the meme directory and then check for dups, but usually I do not save files twice.
I should probably shove it into a script but it's something like `find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -P8 -n100 md5sum | awk '{a[$1] = a[$1] "\t" $2;c[$1]++}END{for(i in c){if(c[i] > 1)print i, c[i], a[i]}}'.
@realman543@goo@p@MisterRogersSnapped It was supposed to be, but now it's just "anime or anime-like". Basically everything @Zettour posts ends up in there. (Although it's questionable how often that actually succeeds; seems there's some weirdness with his attachments or instance or something. My client doesn't notify me that the images are saved until I go save something else, usually this indicates the path wasn't available at the time.)
>And if I'm being frank, if you have over 10,000 memes you have bigger problems than sorting. >maymays 10k seems like an average number. I am deliberately very conservative because I store misc funny shit on my flashdrive, the consequence being that sometimes I have to ask people for things I can rotate in my mind because for some fucking reason I didn't think it would be useful at the time.
@Zergling_man@MisterRogersSnapped@p@goo If you don't want a database because you're not addicted to hoarding (or you don't give enough of a fuck to catalog the backlog) you can just name them. If the files get so numerous to be overwhelming (which I've never had happen ftr) you can always subdivide into general category folders.
@p@MisterRogersSnapped@Zergling_man what's the best way to organize funny pictures anyway? When I get really really bored I put mine in a locally running booru but that's probably overkill.
@goo@MisterRogersSnapped@Zergling_man That's probably reasonable but it seems pretty manual. I just put them somewhere, name them something clever, forget what I called them, and then tell people I had something for this. ivegotamemeforthis.mp4
@p@dcc@Zergling_man@goo The kid did we exactly right but the adults in his life are fucking idiots. The car lot owner didn't have the balls to protect his own shit but gassed this kid up to do it? If you stuck a key in my back at his age it wouldn't have took many turns to have me crashing out thinking I was Rambo too.
He was in the right, it was a clean self defense shooting, but those adults are fucking idiots. 2 less piece of shit commie scumbags I guess.
It was the only good outcome possible in that situation.
@p@MisterRogersSnapped@Zergling_man@Zettour@dcc@goo Also I just took a quick inventory, and of the memes currently in my rotation, so this is not counting any non-standard folder, I have 977. 917 if I am a touch more strict in my definition of "meme".
Yeah, to be fair some of the JS stuff there is like...stuff you expect a runtime to do if it is all IEEE-754 and there is no real integer, but then stuff like
>array of ints sorted as strings
Zero languages should be allowed to do this. '[] + {}' should probably toss an error of some sort, or coerce the array into an associative array so []+{}=={}, like [1]+{a:2}=={0:1,a:2} would make more sense than JS's fascination with just coercing all types to strings.
>For a more type-safe ==, we have ===. For a more type-safe <, we have... nothing. "123" < "0124", always, no matter what you do. Casting doesn't help, either. >== converts to numbers when possible (123 == "123foo"� although "123" != "123foo"), which means it converts to floats when possible. So large hex strings (like, say, password hashes) may occasionally compare true when they're not. Even JavaScript doesn't do this. - https://thelo.ca/php.txt (mostly taken from eev.ee's post and some other, phpsadness or such)
When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi and Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like, ‘C-h for help’ and ‘“foo” File is read only’. So I use the editor that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
Ed, man! !man ed
ED(1) Unix Programmer's Manual ED(1)
NAME ed - text editor
SYNOPSIS ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ] DESCRIPTION Ed is the standard text editor.
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Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed because it's ED!
“Ed is the standard text editor.”
And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed -rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs
Of course, on the system I administrate, vi is symlinked to ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!
“Ed is the standard text editor.”
Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm the novice with verbosity.
“Ed is the standard text editor.”
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a “viitor”. Not a “emacsitor”. Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their “edlin” on a Unix standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can remember what they are working on. If you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED “VISUAL” EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
> the keyboard (you can't fault him for not tracking down an old keyboard but he didn't need the close-up of it; you *can* fault him for not just looking at old-ass websites)
@p@MisterRogersSnapped Keyboard looks like a normal late 90s/early 2000s one to me, avatars and profile info started getting traction at around the same time (phpBB supported it since at least 2001, vBulletin probably even earlier), the rest are more of an anachronistic nitpick. Only thing that breaks my suspension of disbelief is dynamic loading of new posts, AJAX hasn't started getting traction until mid-2000s.
> Keyboard looks like a normal late 90s/early 2000s one to me,
Maybe a mid-2000s. Definitely not what people used in the 90s. Those retarded app buttons didn't appear until USB keyboards took off, and even though it supported USB out of the box, Windows 98 and ME machines used PS/2 keyboards, at least on the popular models; I was still using an XT keyboard. (BIOS didn't support USB keyboards; until Windows had fully booted--if it did boot and you didn't have to fix it or press a key to let it run scandisk.exe or whatever--the keyboard was dead. You had to either have two keyboards or just use a PS/2 one. People just used a PS/2 one.) It was weird when the gumdrop iMacs came out and they were USB-only. There were no extra stupid "internet" buttons until a few years after USB keyboards became popular: in the 90s, people were upset that there was a "Windows" key.
> avatars and profile info started getting traction at around the same time
People had sites, almost no one had web-based forums. It was more like bulletin boards. Think 4chan but with flat files instead of a DB and Perl scripts instead of PHP. Most of the time, you didn't even log in: it was just a website, who gives a shit? Auth was just like on IRC: type a name, that's you, that's your name.
You can *sorta* see it start when MySpace started letting people post comments on other people's pages, but that was the mid-aughts, not the 90s.
The relative timestamps took off around the time Twitter started doing them. People printed web pages out to read later.
The guy is using basically a modern webapp with shitty retro aesthetics. It was seriously different back then. All of this tiny stuff adds up to something completely different.
@p@MisterRogersSnapped >Maybe a mid-2000s. Definitely not what people used in the 90s. Here's Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard from '99. >Those retarded app buttons didn't appear until USB keyboards took off I've seen more PS/2 keyboards with those big round shortcut buttons than those with USB connection. Even used some for a while that had a wide-ass scrollwheel on it which was kinda useful. >in the 90s, people were upset that there was a "Windows" key. I'd reckon most of those complains were about this key having a Windows logo on it rather than it existing in the first place. Look at Model M, for example, there's clearly some space left that would fit an extra button nicely, which then could be used for controlling a window manager or something without interfering with any existing Ctrl/Shift/Alt shortcuts that may be present in running application.
Either way, I think we're digging too deep into what was supposed to be a silly video poking fun at internet discussions that happens to use old infomercial aesthetics as a stylistic choice. MS_Natural_Keyboard_Pro.JPG
That one was USB, and as I said, no one used those. There were plenty of people running 95 because there wasn't this screaming urgency about updating. I had a computer in 1999, my friends had computers, I had a part-time job doing tech support at an ISP, this involved fixing people's computers: I never saw one of those keyboards at the time.
The RTX 4090 exists and is available for sale but they only made 100k of them because nobody buys a $1200 GPU, it's a niche thing.
> I'd reckon most of those complains were about this key having a Windows logo on it rather than it existing in the first place.
It was that it represented Microsoft eating the world, down to the keyboard.
> Look at Model M, for example, there's clearly some space left that would fit an extra button nicely,
I don't need to, I have keyboards from that era. (Most of a disassembled 486 in my closet; no time or space to play with it at present, but I'd like to be able to get an old Hercules video card for it, amber monochrome monitor, complete the experience. My first machine had one of those and I really like the way they look.)
Old coworker of mine had a PS/2 to USB adapter, into which he plugged an XT to PS/2 adapter, into which he plugged his Model M, so that he could use a Model M with his Thinkpad. Apparently he got one in the 80s and the things can't be killed. He cleaned it by just putting it into the dishwasher.
> Either way, I think we're digging too deep into what was supposed to be a silly video
I will die on this and every hill: that kid does not know what the 90s looked like. That BBS documentary? Half of it took place in the 90s. DOS-ass motherfuckers. WinME sucked for a lot of reasons but removing the "kill Windows and go back to DOS" option in the Start menu was a dealbreaker for a lot of people.
@p@MisterRogersSnapped >I'd like to be able to get an old Hercules video card for it, amber monochrome monitor, complete the experience https://github.com/viti95/FastDoom has Hercules video mode, though because of all the realtime dithering it might require more power than a contemporary machine with VGA-compatible adapter, so something like very late boards with ISA slots that took P3s or Athlons. >what the 90s looked like Honestly, I think defining an era just by a decade is a misnomer, technology in, say, '92 was quite a bit more primitive than in '98. The early Web era was between the PCs getting cheap enough for home users and the dotcom bubble burst, so around 1996-2002.
@p@mint Even porno chicks back then just had their own websites. Centralizing pornography re-enslaved porn chicks to production companies and centralized websites and they get paid a percentage when way back when they had a website and uploaded their own picture sets and got all the money except what they paid their webmaster.
Free as in freedom not as in free beer. SSTOP = Stop State Tax On Pussy
@p@mint Its another example of centralization ruining the internet. A huge example. I mean those girls made way better money and had way less nasty con artists fucking with them when they had their own sites, I bet.
Plus if they had a free sample page and you changed the page number in the picture URL you could wind up behind the paywall. Not that a chaste young fellow like me would have ever done something like that.
Ah, I've got an old 10baseT card with a PXE ROM on it, I'm gonna just have it netboot Plan 9 if I ever actually get it going. Plan 9 is probably usably fast on one of those. If that doesn't work out, there's always LOAF distros.
> so something like very late boards with ISA slots that took P3s or Athlons.
Yeah, might require that; might still be slow on one of those. Dual-P3 setup would be fun to build out. (It is kinda funny how much CPU is required by cool-retro-term.)
> technology in, say, '92 was quite a bit more primitive than in '98.
What most people had on their desktop changed significantly during that decade, yeah. Same CPU, though; Intel got two and a half decades of being Intel before ARM started to take over. By the end of the 90s, Intel was at the top of the list: https://top500.org/lists/top500/1999/11/ . When that list started, there was one 512-core Intel cluster at #8: https://top500.org/lists/top500/1993/06/ .
> The early Web era was between the PCs getting cheap enough for home users and the dotcom bubble burst, so around 1996-2002.
This is reasonable, but no one was using phpBB back then. It was more like that dude's Perl scripts. The first cat arriving in Australia was a different event from cats spreading through the place, right? The cat landing was a cat, the cat becoming widespread was an extinction event for a bunch of birds and small mammals.