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   iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 03:36:38 JST iced depresso
   https://turso.tech/ mein gott they colonized sqlite
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 03:39:31 JST iced depresso

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     > But despite having its code available, SQLite [..] doesn't adhere to a code of conduct. So community improvements cannot be widely enjoyed.
     
     maybe it became a standard because it is good and not because it was busy being a communist block captain
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     > Creating a function requires providing its name and WebAssembly source code (in WebAssembly text format). The ABI for translating between WebAssembly types and libSQL types is to be standardized soon.
     
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:24:41 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist they wanted to add some stuff to sqlite. some of it seemed ok (like random rowid.) i just take offense to the idea that if you don't have a local commie block captain the project is somehow unusable.
     
     like you could have just stopped at "we wanted to add some things"
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     Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette (archivist@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:24:43 JST Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette

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     @icedquinn erm, that may be because sqlite is open-source but not a community project. It is a company project, that is sold.

     Also, what is this fuckery of a thing that seems to be some kind of dumb SQLite over RADOS or some similar shit and tries to be pretentious as fuck?

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:26:47 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist especially since we've seen the full mask off wrt. Nix going around purging everyone right of Mao and claiming its oppression if the conduct board isn't given total dictatorial power with no oversight (as also happened with Python) it's a... very strange thing to proudly proclaim.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:44:56 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist i've always been of the feeling that people can feel as bad as they want while the rising tide raises all ships.
     
     scions are precious and normies—as compliance testing robots—are incapable of scientific achievements.
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     Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette (archivist@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:44:57 JST Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette

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     @icedquinn yeah, as a local autistic moron that screams movie references because echolalias are a thing, I do not want to be anywhere in range of the python conduct board, I would 100% get canceled for liking a stupid movie quote

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:46:40 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist there are limits—obviously—but if the problem is solved by just not letting the dev team talk to twitter without PR's oversight then hire the PR rep with the fist full of cash you are making from hypercompetent workers :ablobcatgooglytenor:
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:52:54 JST iced depresso

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     @threalist @Archivist i think they were doubly mad that he stood up for himself and made them expose themselves for the ass clown authoritarians they are.
     
     remember the actual reason for conviction included "monopolizing the discussion" because he kept making them justify why they should have more powers.
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     🌲-alist (threalist@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:52:55 JST 🌲-alist

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     > I would 100% get canceled for liking a stupid movie quote
     
     Too many people are oblivious to how dangerous it is for this behavior to become normalized.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:53:47 JST iced depresso

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     @threalist @Archivist between nix and python its time we just airlock the codes of conduct and everyone involved with them.
     
     i thought they were a bit obvious and redundant (most of the rules of the reasonable ones were -already- netiquette or platform rules on github) but they are clearly malicious.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 04:57:32 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist @threalist some days i wish their rhetoric was real because they make it sound like they are seconds away from being flatlined at any given moment
     
     and i'm not sure that anything of value would be lost if they were
     
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     @threalist @icedquinn

     Anyone that you are not allowed to mock or criticise is privileged over you. They have the most frightening amount of power over you

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:05:52 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist @threalist zoomers haven't faced real adversity is the problem, i think.
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     @icedquinn @threalist most of this rhetoric is doing a disservice to their cause. It makes real issues seem incredibly shallow by equating any careless statement into violence, which in turns equates violence with a careless statement. If a reference from a comedy sketch from the 70s hurt you enough to fire a dude, it minimizes the punishment for SA under the hush that most corpos do (looking at you MrBeast)

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:07:25 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist @threalist i used to have conversations with some people about that. they were still crowing about racism this and that. but the reality is people who are in their 20s today have never known a world where lynch mobs existed and black people were forced to stock their house full of arms to stop the KKK.
     
     they don't even know basic history like the NRA's first case was to prevent disarming black folk so they could be killed by race mobs, and gun control in the USA is fundamentally rooted in disarming black citizens so they could be killed by race mobs.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:09:08 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist @threalist adversity eats the stupid :blobcatanime:
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     @icedquinn @threalist nah, I disagree with that, but I think people in those commitees are always either stupid or malicious, and you do not want either idiot or malevolent people in what is an ethics commitee

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:11:06 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist @threalist have been wondering for a few years about this now. taleb had a book where he talks about people going "wow the gulags made people strong"
     
     then points out gulags did not make russians strong. gulags ate russians who were weak. its the same as irradiating mice and saying the survivors are strong.
     
     survivorship bias seems to fit a lot of societal issues overall. where the stupid could not physically continue to live (ex. mountainous areas, harsh seasons, etc) there are less stupid people. where stupid people thrive there are tons of stupid people. we now live in a situation where stupid people are able to thrive in exponential quantities.
     
     this is how people of no worth or ability can even hold positions of authority over others.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:13:10 JST Blurry Moon

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     @icedquinn @threalist @Archivist the early part of everything is people who make things and the later part of everything is taken over by people that are good at manipulating people and groups.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:13:13 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist @threalist yes the malicious and the devious must be processed manually unfortunately :comfyglare:
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     Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette (archivist@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:13:14 JST Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette

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     @icedquinn @threalist malicious people love idiots, when someone is easy to manipulate and has a sense of belonging in a group, they are just food for overturning democratic processes

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:15:36 JST iced depresso

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     @sun @threalist @Archivist i'm not entirely convinced stage two is too bad, idk. some people benefit from active management. officers manuals and the like from the past talk about it a little differently.
     
     like a responsibility over the men, it's a burden you carry.
     
     the problems come when the titled authority doesn't coexist with this.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:17:56 JST iced depresso

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     @sun @Archivist @threalist the CoC group in particular is exactly that. they do not carry the competence of the line worker or the life burdens of the officer, but they demand the titled authority to do whatever they want.
     
     taleb calls this intellectual-yet-idiots and they infect everything eventually. a whole class of people who abuse intellectualism to seem smart, while hiding their parasitic worthlessness. i don't know of a better way to phrase it yet.
     
     a lot of people (esp in communist circles, being an ideology of the retail wage worker) discount what the officer's purpose actually is
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:21:31 JST iced depresso

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     @Archivist @sun @threalist i'm probably in one of those places where i'm just speaking nonsense idk. there used to be a societal understanding that to own a working group genuinely meant entitling the authority of that group to the officer. once that writ is made those are the officer's men now, they no longer belong to the crown (though the officer does), with the requisite "deal with your own house" issues that ensue from this.
     
     we don't really have that anymore which is another problem of the whole thing. we have pedagogues whos job is to just whip the line men on behalf of deciders at the top, without a genuine delegation of authority and ownership of the hierarchy.
     
     the human hierarchy seems inevitable really. attempts to deviate from it are ending poorly, though it does not itself have to be cruel. but this is a whole unrelated topic and i should probably drink cofe and stop filling up inboxes about pseudofeudalism
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:23:03 JST Blurry Moon

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     @icedquinn @threalist @Archivist the people that can launch a successful business are usually not the same people that can keep an established business continuously successful. Part of that is what you say but it is also part of the pattern of every business eventually the administrative part of the company considers itself more important than solving the problem the org was meant to solve. all corporations problem number 1 is making more money but that is why you end up with like media companies doing stupid DEI shit that results in objectively worse-performing products but they absolutely refuse to quit hammering ahead.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:26:12 JST Blurry Moon

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     @icedquinn @Archivist @threalist I realize the DEI stuff is culture war stuff but it's just true. Do you really want somebody with a fucking checklist evaluating your artistic production, the answer is yes they do because x y or z doesn't matter except to further the cause.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:28:48 JST iced depresso

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     @sun @threalist @Archivist
     > line go up
     it didn't used to be like this. the courts forced it with dodge v. ford IIRC.
     
     Ford had a neuron activation and decided to spend his income on his men, Dodge brothers threw a fit because as shareholders they weren't going to benefit from this. thus one of the landmark cases that the Line Must Go Up.
     
     in recent years people have protested Line Go Up by creating the concept of a public benefit corporation, which is basically a regular C-corp with the explicit provision that shareholders are not entitled to line going up.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:29:58 JST Blurry Moon

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     @icedquinn @threalist @Archivist that is true but on the absolute worst end, imagine making something so paint by numbers DEI and spending 200mil and it completely fails, nobody can actually afford that
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:30:15 JST iced depresso

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     @sun @Archivist @threalist i have long held the very unpopular line that the purpose of a business is to do something, in the face of everyone spouting the "business/make money" doctrine, and it seems that history does bear this out to an extent. money enables the art, and finance weasels ruin everything.
     
     idk. i am biased.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:31:13 JST Blurry Moon

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     @icedquinn @threalist @Archivist I don't actually understand the original lawsuit, I don't see why a chartered corporation has to be 100% in pursuit of money by law. I guess I have to sit down and read the entire lawsuit.
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     @sun @threalist @Archivist he wanted to use corporate funds to start giving out raises and benefits and shareholders wanted the money as dividends.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:33:17 JST Blurry Moon

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     @icedquinn @threalist @Archivist determining that employees (their wages anyway) are only a cost center is a fucked up interpretation of reality, I don't mean politically but just literally, they are the people that do the work and you have to take care of them to make the money.
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:37:16 JST Blurry Moon

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     @Archivist @icedquinn @threalist that is true but what I mean is, the thing you're investing in isn't a money printer it's people that rely on it for their own existence and you are making deals with those people so part of the process is enticing good workers and basically taking care of them. if you understand that then why are bonuses off the table
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     @sun @icedquinn @threalist

     A corpo is just an investment, from the outside the business is just a consequence of the corpo trying to produce ROI, the business is not the cause

     I want no part in this madness, I could not stay silent seeing cost cuttings that sacrifice humanity for profit. I am a human, I do not yield to monsters

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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 05:41:04 JST Blurry Moon

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     @Archivist @icedquinn @threalist to me it is equivalent of running a zoo and not taking care of the animals. you have to on some level care about animals to run a good zoo
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     @sun @icedquinn @threalist in a word directed by capital, it is a money printer. It could be a company that has 0 employees, if its values goes up, it prints money properly. That is why Tesla has a higher market cap than BMW despite having less than 1% of its production and sales