Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂
@_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @evan @js @james @adam
We did it! TrueFans is now publishing new activity about podcast listening, people & podcast follows, new episode releases, comments and more to the Fediverse.
The user can choose what activity they want published from their user settings. To follow any TrueFans user, just search for a TrueFans.social account from any AP client and follow them. Then when they publish new activity you will see it in your AP client. More to come.
Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂
@_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @evan @js @james @adam
Below is the JSON ActivityStream - https://truefans.social/sam - we will make this page look super pretty next week. Follow, Filter, Search etc. The other image is the ActivityStream inside of TrueFans.fm
We will allow users to click a link to see the comment or episode. We will also build an inbox model to allow AP clients to reply to any TrueFans comment. We will then show that reply inside of TrueFans on the episode page.
Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂
@_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @evan @js @james @adam
next week TrueFans will take this listening metric showing in browser.pub and share it to your followers across the fediverse. i.e Sam Sethi listened to an episode of The News Agents. Listen Time: 23 min 55 sec. Completed: 61%. Value Paid: 0
Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂
@_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @evan @js @james @adam
Here are the original comments made in TrueFans.fm - https://truefans.fm/podcasting-20/66db3ce5d55de476b725c51b?tab=boosts
kurtsh
@samsethi @_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @evan @js @james @adam DUDE. That's pretty f'ing cool! Automatically updating user feeds with current information people want to represent them & also share with others?
That's really innovative. Cross-domain federated information isn't something too many other services do. Congratulations & well done!
Evan Prodromou
@samsethi @_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @js @james @adam
https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-listen
Chris Messina
@samsethi @_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @evan @js @james @adam Now you need to build last.fm for arbitrary fediverse activities! :)
Evan Prodromou
@samsethi @_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @js @james @adam oh, that's great to hear. What AP client do you mean? Like, Mastodon?
Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂
@evan @_elena @tchambers @dave @mike @js @james @adam
Hi Evan we originally used the Listen verb from the AP vocab but no AP client supports it. We are checking again. -see image below.
Marcin Mikołajczak
Pleroma uses Listen activities for LastFM-like scrobbling, guess it can be modified to work with TrueFans
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Evan Prodromou
@mkljczk @samsethi that's awesome!
I think what we're talking about here is Mastodon's mechanism for handling incoming activities. I think the docs say it tries to massage them into a status.
I'm going to experiment with the Listen activity and see what I can find.
James Cridland
@evan @samsethi I would see it as a great thing if Truefans used the correct verbs here, paving the way for AP client support for them.
Sam Sethi :pc2red: ⁂
@james @evan the honest answer was on Friday we were struggling to get anything comments, notes or listens to federate. We took a step back and created a simple note to send which worked. On Monday we will go back and test if Listen works and on which AP clients. I’ll publish the results here. As you say James Listen is more accurate and preferable, we would like to use more of the AP vocab and offer filtering on TrueFans.social
Evan Prodromou
It would also be great if more servers had better handling of arbitrary activity types.
It looks like Mastodon only handles a fixed set of Activity types and doesn't use fallback représentations for them:
https://docs.joinmastodon.org/spec/activitypub/#supported-activities-for-statuses
Dave
@samsethi @james @evan It would be great to have a comprehensive list of what verbs do when presented to different clients - which ones get coerced into other types vs. which are natively accepted.
Evan Prodromou
@dave @samsethi @james I think it does a better job with the `object` of a `Create` activity.
Evan Prodromou
@dave @samsethi @james I'm going to open a ticket for it on the Mastodon GitHub.
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