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I think his take as a frenchman is insteresting as well.
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@jb @sickburnbro I think the gig is coming to an end. All that blather would sound great if the U.K. didn't end up invaded and living under the heal of totalitarianism:
>"Oh we couldn't have peace with Hitler because-"
Because *what*?
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@EvilSandmich @jb yeah, I think at this point the whole "but we would have been speaking german" is "ok, where do I sign up?"
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So why is this bubbling up now and getting reinforced by so many
Very curious
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@EvilSandmich @jb what is interesting from a wider social lens is that there is tension on the left with regard to this, because they view the jews as colonizers in the context of the Palestinians, and so ultimately for them, re-looking at WW2 as just "white people fighting" and that the jews are special victims is a possibility.
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> the gig is coming to an end
Hopefully that includes undue foreign influence in our country
:jew_predator:
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@jb @sickburnbro I have to think that the myth of the holocaust is becoming increasingly untenable to defend. I've seen lots of converts to our way of thinking and none the other way, at least no one who wasn't a trolling shill. That's a situation that gets worse by the day. Perhaps their thinking is that if they can downplay all of WW2 then maybe people won't pay attention to every fabrication built up around it's edifice.
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@jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich @sickburnbro What the Frenchman says is correct, which also refutes the delusion that Churchill was good. He wasn't able to be good, as no member of the British ruling class would ever do the right thing for the British people. The stand-out counterexamples throughout history prove the rule
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LFG
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The noticing is approaching nuclear meltdown levels
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@KarlDahl @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich He was *absolutely* able to choose peace as an answer. But his response shows why it is reasonable to see why he didn't.
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@KarlDahl @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich The entire history of europe since the unification of germany has been the rest of europe being afraid of germany having too big of a hand in steering the destiny of the place.
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@sickburnbro @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich Yep. The British ruling class will never choose peace at the cost of competitors not being under their, or an ally's, boot
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@KarlDahl @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich This isn't even just the British, this is also all of eastern europe too.
France, being the 2nd continental power traditionally, has always been involved with wanting to sabotage Germany - just a little.
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@sickburnbro @KarlDahl @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich Look at how many times alsace-lorraine changed hands over the last 1000 years
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@Kang_Kong3 @KarlDahl @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich being an anglo-saxon who is comfortably snuggled in the US, I can take a long view on all of this.
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@KarlDahl @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich @sickburnbro So does the UK's half-in, half-out EU stance, followed by Brexit also conform to this idea? By backing out, they more or less put EU into the hands of Germany, but the British elites by and large were not pro-Brexit.
I can squint and tilt my head a little and make it fit, but it's not absolutely clear one way or the other, at least to me.
This historical take on Britishness being about conflict on the Continent may be just that--historical--because of the overall globohomoness of all modern Western governments.
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@JoshuaSlocum @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich @sickburnbro Yeah, they're weak now, and utterly brought to heel for the new phase
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@sickburnbro @Kang_Kong3 @jb @s2208 @EvilSandmich TL:DR the American EU fans are utterly fucking delusional about history and human motivations
Bread up, Bro
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