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   Zack Whittaker (zackwhittaker@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Sep-2024 06:27:41 JST Zack Whittaker

   Oh no, said literally nobody ever, about a huge fine that facial recognition startup Clearview AI absolutely deserves and then some.

   https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/03/clearview-ai-hit-with-its-largest-gdpr-fine-yet-as-dutch-regulator-considers-holding-execs-personally-liable/

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     James 🌈💜 (shaknais@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Sep-2024 06:27:38 JST James 🌈💜

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     • Benjamin

     @Cycrev
     If they do, it's not a wise position. The GDPR applies to EU citizens, even when outside the EU.

     And when it comes to enforcing judgements... The EU has agreements with most of the rest of the world, including the US. Because it's not a jail term, the US is actually likely to uphold it.

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     Darnell Clayton :verified: (darnell@one.darnell.one)'s status on Thursday, 05-Sep-2024 06:27:38 JST Darnell Clayton :verified:

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     • Benjamin

     @shaknais @Cycrev They have ignored other fines by the EU in the past. Unless the US imposes the fines, this will not deter them.

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     Benjamin (cycrev@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 05-Sep-2024 06:27:41 JST Benjamin

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     @zackwhittaker doesn't Clearview generally respond to gdpr violations with "we don't have a business entity or assets in the EU. You've made your judgement now let's see you enforce it"

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     James 🌈💜 (shaknais@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Sep-2024 09:18:29 JST James 🌈💜

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     • Darnell Clayton :verified:

     @darnell However, since the US *agreed* to uphold it in July, that situation is not likely to repeat.

     https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/international-dimension-data-protection/eu-us-data-transfers_en

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     Darnell Clayton :verified: (darnell@one.darnell.one)'s status on Thursday, 05-Sep-2024 09:18:29 JST Darnell Clayton :verified:

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     • James 🌈💜

     @shaknais The US is not enforcing the fines now. That is the issue here. It is unlikely they will either, as the company can contest any fines imposed as they do not have a presence within the European Union 🇪🇺.

     They have ignored fines in the past, & I doubt they will pay one penny to the EU.

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     James 🌈💜 (shaknais@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Sep-2024 10:07:13 JST James 🌈💜

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     • Darnell Clayton :verified:

     @darnell
     The US only designated Switzerland as the qualifying state in June. Laws take a while to take effect - the draft first went up five years ago.

     The US *will* be enforcing the fines, unless the executive order is overturned, but only very, very, recently did the EO come into effect.

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     Darnell Clayton :verified: (darnell@one.darnell.one)'s status on Thursday, 05-Sep-2024 10:07:13 JST Darnell Clayton :verified:

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     • James 🌈💜

     @shaknais My theory: any attempt to impose the fines will be overturned in Federal court & be seen as unconstitutional according to US law (especially with conservatives controlling the Supreme Court).

     I do not see the company paying any fines in the future.