I’d just like to say to every obnoxious Reply Guy Leftist who gave me shit on Twitter for what I said about Tulsi Gabbard 4-5 years ago:
1. I told you so.
2. I’m telling you so about Jill Stein too.
I’d just like to say to every obnoxious Reply Guy Leftist who gave me shit on Twitter for what I said about Tulsi Gabbard 4-5 years ago:
1. I told you so.
2. I’m telling you so about Jill Stein too.
@inthehands hah, yeah, I never understood why people were taken in by that person
Beware of developing a personal sense of ideological purity, because no matter how good or wise or well-thought-out the ideology may be, getting it entangled with your sense of self makes you an easy mark.
(The antidote is never, ever, ever letting go of “Maybe I’m wrong”)
Mmm. Yeah. She's a good one. Another great I told ya so for us coming up is when all these Republicans endorsing Harris go back to being shitbird Republicans when the election is over. I'll bet more than a few leftist minds will be blown, even though it's painfully obvious. Just like Gabbard.
@helplessduck
I mean, the Republicans endorsing Harris basically say as much in their statement; it’s diplomacy-speak for “We hate this person and we’re going to fight every single she does, and even •we• think she’s clearly better than Trump.” Like…there’s zero promise of political cooperation there beyond agreeing to remain democracy. This is hardly a secret.
@argv_minus_one
I know a few well enough personally to know that it feels like sincerity inside their own heads. The line between knowing Trump support and unwitting Trump stooge is a blurry one sometimes.
If those people are as politically astute as they present themselves to be, then they know exactly what they're doing. Trump trolls, the whole rotten lot of them.
(At least I think it is, maybe I’m wrong)
... and beware of ideologies in general. Study and learn from them and harvest any good ideas they have, but don't wrap it around you.
“An idea is something you have; an ideology is something that has you” ― Morris Berman
Related, from @DM_Ronin: https://mstdn.social/@DM_Ronin/113038434159803529
@DM_Ronin
Minus points to him for not mentioning Plurality Voting, the root problem here, a booby trap that will (and twice already has) cause any widely successful third party to trigger a realignment back to two parties.
Otherwise agreed.
@inthehands Dan Savage was absolutely right 8 years ago about Jill Stein and the American Greens - even putting aside Stein's pro-Assadist and pro-Putinist position https://www.thestranger.com/politics/2016/07/19/24362128/dan-savage-on-jill-stein-just-no
@DM_Ronin
Voting itself can be a huge hurdle for •voters• of any party — or not, depending on what state and county you live in. Minnesota? You’re good. Florida and you live near a lot of Black people? Heaven help you.
Ranked Choice (IRV) is not great either, but it’s an improvement.
Regardless, the status quo means that basically every 3rd party in the US is a grift or about to become one. Sadly.
@inthehands well, my understanding is that voting itself in USA is in itself a huge hurdle for third-party or independent candidates
In comparison, from what I see (and I don't live in USA so I can be entirely wrong ofc), among third parties only Yang's Forward somewhat approaches this correctly - not mentioning his TED talk about ranked choice voting
@maxthyme
So many things I’d like to have been wrong about.
@inthehands It brings me no joy that I was right 9 years ago when I was trying to get people to call Nazis what they are, and that the orange turd would totally take their side.
I would much rather have been blowing things out of proportion and laughably wrong back then.
@vashbear
Yes. I’m of a mind that •all• beliefs about fact, process, system, or mechanism must be provisional (i.e. open to rethinking). It’s extremely dangerous to believe you’ve figured out how to solve the world’s problems •with certainty•, because it opens the door to prioritizing hypothetical, uncertain utopia in the future over real, predictable harm in the present.
👆👆👆 Tapping the sign upthread 👆👆👆
Re this from @charlesgaba:
https://mastodon.social/@charlesgaba/113354121042567967
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