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   william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:28:05 JST william.maggos

   This was posted on X as a reply to someone's tribute to their dad. This is why people want moderation and server blocking beyond everybody having to block after they see this crap. I agree mods can go too far by blocking for opinions and even misinfo (cause some things might later turn out to be true), but if you want your server to be widely federated, you need to police for this shit. Or please just be honest and say you don't want most decent people to ever embrace federation. #fediblockmeta

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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:27:55 JST silverpill

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     @wjmaggos @Hyolobrika @ryan @tisha

     >wouldn't some standards and norms about making account transfers work better fix this?

     The solution I'm working on is similar to an account transfer, except your current account doesn't disappear. You can have multiple accounts on different servers but on the protocol level they are single account.
     Even if widely implemented, that wouldn't significantly change moderation practices.

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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:27:56 JST william.maggos

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     @Hyolobrika @ryan @tisha @silverpill

     wouldn't some standards and norms about making account transfers work better fix this? doesn't nostr lack moderation generally?

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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:27:57 JST Hyolobrika

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     This should help with not having to pick a instance/moderator and stick with them or else you'll lose all your contacts if they don't like you.
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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:27:58 JST Hyolobrika

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     I think the protocol should be trustless. #Nostr does this. And @silverpill is building it on #ActivityPub

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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:27:59 JST william.maggos

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     @tisha @Hyolobrika @ryan

     but even after using diff email servers for decades, most struggle to understand what we are doing here or why. ours is the simplest ask and maybe the furthest we'll get most people to go. it has to be decentralized to diff servers to accomplish the basics so why not also use that to handle moderation? having people run their own servers is great but most won't do that. threads wants to be gmail. hopefully most use locality based servers for their personal accounts.

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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:28:01 JST Hyolobrika

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     Choosing an instance is basically equivalent to choosing a moderator.
     To remove even more friction, we could have "moderation feeds" that users can subscribe to.
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     Tisha Tiger (tisha@htt.social)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:28:01 JST Tisha Tiger

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     @Hyolobrika @ryan @wjmaggos That's why running your own instance seems mandatory, did that since the beggining 😁

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     ryan (ryan@bemrose.social)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:28:04 JST ryan

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     @wjmaggos All I hear is "I want this censored for *everyone* because *I* don't like it." People who promote server-level censorship don't even see the slippery slope they're diving headfirst down.
     
     As Raymond Chen was fond of saying, imagine if everybody did this. Freedom of speech doesn't exist because of content that everybody likes. It exists to protect content that someone *doesn't* like, because not everybody likes the same thing, and because without freedom of speech, eventually someone with power - someone who doesn't like the things that you like - will come in and force what *they* want onto you.
     
     "But this particular content is universally bad! Nobody should like it!", you might say, because you literally didn't comprehend the previous paragraph. There are people out there who would say exactly the same thing about abortions, transgenderism, climate change, and women's suffrage. I guarantee there is someone out there who thinks *those* topics are universally deplorable and should be censored. Who are you to decide what everyone else may see, when that other person can't?
     
     This is a problem that is fully solvable with user-level content filtering. Letting users choose their own level of participation for themselves is the ONLY equitable way to do it. Everything else is just forcing your own sensibilities onto others.
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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Monday, 26-Aug-2024 01:33:14 JST silverpill

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     @wjmaggos @Hyolobrika @ryan @tisha

     It is already implemented in streams, by the way