Embed this noticeAngry Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 05-Aug-2024 23:49:39 JST
Angry SunI just want people to admit that Discord works a lot better than the cobbled together barely functioning FOSS alternative but people sincerely say that Discord is shit compared to Mumble which requires more manual configuration and works worse for audio level and noise suppression, you can't paste a picture that is bigger than like 4Kb, can't paste animated or video, and has had a bug for years and years where anyone pasting an image causes chat to scroll back multiple pages
@sun@shitposter.world foss evangelism is a plague to be honest. i use mumble ofc but thinking its better in literally any way other than privacy from a conglomerate is so retarded
@sun@shitposter.world i don't see people saying this, but conversations works as well as signal and all the other chat apps besides telegram. it really just depends what is worth it and what isn't
@sun >works a lot better than the cobbled together barely functioning FOSS alternative I'm not sure what you're referring to.
Are you referring to proprietary software has happens to be functionally worse?
The original and the best was irc.
Mumble predates discord by a decade.
Mumble needs to be configured just one time? Boo hoo.
Mumble is designed for voice chat primarily and does a very good job at that.
You appear to be complaining about a bug that has been fixed, which is ridiculous, considering that many bugs in proprietary software never get fixed - if it hasn't been fixed, the source code is right there awaiting a patch from you.
@sun >Mumble which requires more manual configuration and works worse for audio level and noise suppression I'll concede on most points but RNNoise in Mumble is way better than whatever garbage Discord is using.
@sun I think for me the only true alternative on the VC+light-chat side of things is Jitsi Meet, that said I barely ever do VCs.
And like at some point you have to be honest, for most of foss folks, ability to self-host or other forms of owning technology matters a lot, while others would rather just rent/freeload around.
@sun Which for me is part of the reason why I like what Framasoft is doing and why I think we need more organisations like them if we want foss to be relevant outside of our nerd circles. (And I'm saying this while being a turbo nerd myself)
@shibao@kon@sun OMEMO and fingerprints are fucking stupid too and I have a long list of bullshit i cant ever clear associated with my account on conversations now because I was trying out different clients on macos
@shibao@kon@sun no, thats not what im saying at all. theres something stupid and broken with the servers if they are seriously taking like an entire 24 hours to do whatever rigamarole it takes to send 28 bytes and handshake or wahtever
@shibao@kon@sun ideally it wouldnt be a total roll of the dice dependent on them not making a decision they wont know is wrong until they spend an hour or so screwing around trying to troubleshoot
@sun@kon@shibao like im on bubbletea it should go through fine. i just have no idea why none of my shit would go thorugh to xmpp.jp and shit was arriving late by days to/from sdf.org
@shibao@kon@sun im using monal on macos and im using conversations on android. i had no idea client and OS had any bearing on this. is mac uniquely fucked for no good reason?