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   Anjiolina Nakaya (neuronakaya@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jul-2024 11:37:20 JST Anjiolina Nakaya

   I was expecting to see French traditions from #Olympic2024 but instead I'm seeing pop and metal. This is so 2024. Looks fun but it's so chaotic. So many things are happening. I'm confused. 🫨
   #Paris2024   

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jul-2024 11:37:19 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @neuronakaya Same. I was expecting to know more about French culture but it's more about modern things.

     I guess today the core culture and traditions, or most “past” for that matter, are no longer important.

     It was a very good opening ceremony but just not within expectations.

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Monday, 29-Jul-2024 06:36:08 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @benny @neuronakaya

     Maybe in the EU it is “boring old stuff” and “everybody learns in school”, centralization and shared history and all.

     But the world is not the EU.

     ^_~

     When it comes to the EU (the Union and the “continent”), the focus is primarily about World War II, the Eastern Roman Empire, Roman Empire, and Greek Empire. That's basically about it.

     Pardon us, or me, for having an expectation to see the past and culture presented in a modern and grand way. Nothing wrong with their modern choice, we just had a preference over the “boring old stuff everybody learns in school” in the EU. ^_~

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     benny (benny@kirche.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Jul-2024 06:36:10 JST benny

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     • Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

     @youronlyone @neuronakaya well, this was all French culture, wasn't it? Just not the boring old stuff everybody learns in school.

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 02:11:56 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @benny @neuronakaya

     > genuine question: you do not learn about Louis XIV, the French Revolution etc in school?

     Nope.

     * The American Civil War was touched… briefly.
     * World War I… just in passing but the main concentration was World War II - the Pacific side mainly.
     * Charlemagne and his “Holy Roman Empire” was briefly touched… just because “Roman Empire” and religion.

     If I remember correctly, the American KKK was not even mentioned in passing because it will only confused the students. #KKK for us was a revolutionary group who fought against the Spanish invaders. (Which won't surprise us if not even mentioned in Spain.)

     French… the closest we ever got was Joan of Arc … because Catholicism, not because “French history”.

     Schools can't teach every single war in the world, or every history of each nation. They only concentrate on those which were major, or have some relation/connection to their own country. And usually, it was rewritten or reinterpreted in the eyes of the “storyteller”

     > Did you expect peole in traditional garnments dancing Polka?

     Is dancing the only French traditional culture? I didn't even known Polka is French until you asked that question. I thought it's American… Polka dots and everything they brought to us. *shrugs*

     > Btw, the EU is not centralised at all.

     Or, Federal?

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     benny (benny@kirche.social)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 02:11:57 JST benny

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     • Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

     @youronlyone @neuronakaya genuine question: you do not learn about Louis XIV, the French Revolution etc in school?
     Or, even that was covered. Did you expect peole in traditional garnments dancing Polka?
     Btw, the EU is not centralised at all.

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 17:04:42 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @benny @neuronakaya No worries about that. It's all cool. ^_^

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     benny (benny@kirche.social)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 17:04:44 JST benny

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     • Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

     @youronlyone @neuronakaya looked at your profile and found out you're from the Phillippines. Wrongfully thought you were US American. Sorry for that.
     Okay, let me try to rephrase: France is and always has been very modern and very extreme. I think this is reflected nicely in the ceremony.
     I guess they could have created a programme with all kind of traditional clothings and music people listened to 100 years ago, but this would be odd.
     Besides that, what culture would one /1

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     Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Jul-2024 17:22:06 JST Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

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     @benny @neuronakaya

     Yep, it's hard to think of one, but I guess that's where the great minds behind the organizers and program coordinators can come in.

     At least from my end, the only one I am curious about because of the opening ceremony was the “headless” and the building that used to be a prison? I have it listed in my ToRead list. The rest, especially the controversial ones, were based from Greek mythology so I'm familiar with them. -- Which were understandable, Olympics … Olympia … Greece.

     The other ones, that I can remember seeing that has to do with French history, were the museums. Which sadly I won't be able to visit in this lifetime as much as I love to visit museums. Although it would have been great if they gave more information about the “characters” they made alive when the masked torch bearer visited the museums.

     Something like that.

     Or, maybe an important castle or two? Or, those were outside of Paris? Of course, if they already did something similar before, that's understandable as well, definitely no one wants a repeat or a rehash.

     Yeah, basically a cultural difference. ^^

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     benny (benny@kirche.social)'s status on Wednesday, 31-Jul-2024 06:08:50 JST benny

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     • Yohan Yukiya Seseㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

     @youronlyone @neuronakaya the headless was Marie Antoinette, queen of France and wife of Louis XVI, the king that got also guillotined in the French Revolution. The castle was were those to be guillotined were judged and where they spent the last night.
     I am not sure about the masked guy, but there used to be all kind of movies about masked kings and what not from the 50s and 60s, maybe this is related.