@menherahair nonono, see, i had a dream where there was a fedi file hosting social network type thing where there was a public timeline of shit being uploaded, think plemora but with a heavy focus on file sharing and video sharing and more importantly you could then just link the uploaded files on fedi and it would point as to who and where reposted them
@menherahair you joke but we have faggots forcing that shit to federate with us because they being subhuman porn addicts have no purpose other than consuming porn
@menherahair real? damn, that's the second time i dreamed of something that already exists first time was when i dreamed that you can right click -> save video on invidious and then i tried it after i woke up and it worked
@menherahair it's a bit of a pain in the ass, i don't have the time to figure out a way to make em defederate us en masse, they're not dogshit stupid enough to just click on random hyperlinks in posts either cc @iamtakingiteasy thoughts on just going full nigger and making a fleet of bots that spam every single pedonigger instance user nonstop in dm scope? or is it gonna be too much hassle to have a perpetual bot generator for it?
@menherahair@iamtakingiteasy well yukkuri is against just nuking the pedonigger accounts even though there's high chance they won't ever register again thanks to the captnha, generating bots that will just go and continuously spam every pedonigger instance user way more rapidly than they can manage to deactivate accounts seems like a realistic way to just force em to defederate us
@lina@iamtakingiteasy where there's will there's way (can't find spam_protocol.png) but then it follows that someone has to pick out pedo instances to spam, and it sucks to have one guy who happens to have access to eientei guts do it because that's how you get around captnha and if you let users make bot fleets no questions asked you're encroaching on cum.salon territory
@lina@iamtakingiteasy@menherahair Could be done with an MRF that generates an account with random name and makes a DM each time a post from there gets federated.
@iamtakingiteasy@menherahair html won't be of much use because they dont have to click on it to see the pic, while a hyperlink is already sus or some shit
@lina@menherahair Doxxing, or even appearance of such has best potential because of the groups most vulnerable to it and more likely to proactively seek ways to avoid it, sharing the word of potential threat with their likeminded peers, virally neutralizing the whole stem. Blatant spamming while potentially effective in short-term, does not pose even appearance of long-term consequences to those specific groups and may also propagate outside of the intended circles, while maintaining the spam list would be comparable to maintaining a defederation list, which is what I'd like to avoid.
Try using html, it can be fun.
@mint@lina@menherahair I'd rather have them defederating us preventively, just like mastodongers do - before we have any chance to learn of their existence.
@iamtakingiteasy@mint@menherahair that clearly doesn't work because they're not mastodongers in their masses, they're safe edgy tumblr kiddies who need to get pinched harder than an html hyperlink\image, not to mention there's no guarantee html stuff works on the pisskey forks
If they aren't using a media proxy and you have access to eientei, wouldn't it be possible to capture their IPs with dms using a unique small custom image for each one? Just have a script generate the images and create the dms, save image-target information in a spreadsheet, fire it up, and finally check eientei logs for hits on those images in order to cross correlate with the spreadsheet. Could scare them enough to defederate you from the beginning but then again could result in them hardening their instances with a media proxy.
Perhaps execute the above process for a couple of months without announcing anything, and make sure that the DMs and images appear to be independent, until you have a couple of hundred/thousands IPs to release in order to maximize the effect.
Hmm, then it's gotta be an external resource. It could just be a legitimate link to, let's say, an interesting conversation for them on ryona with some tracking information added after the ?. Such as:
@lina@laurel@menherahair@mint It most certainly is, shared inboxes came only as an afterthought and technically any instance still can copy the same status to each of it's recipients.
@laurel@iamtakingiteasy@lina@mint can you mangle outgoing posts so every fedi link in it comes with tracking, and have that work on a whitelist? so every post pedi fetches from eientei comes with tracking on their side. and this can be any fedi link so any fedi admin can then grep their logs for ?iamapedophile
Very good thinking. Could probably be done with an MRF. The issues I see with it are:
1. You can't really do any tracking, since the fetching will be done server-to-server. 2. There will be a lot of drama since some admins that are on the fence about a specific pedinstance will complain. It's like you are exporting your blocklist.
@lina@iamtakingiteasy@menherahair@mint and just like Tumblr they're being pedos too (never forget what apple found that made them pull the plug followed by how Tumblr handled it)
If that thread makes it out of PG on KF it's going to scare them shitless because you just know a few of the admins of these instances are going to inevitably get doxed and then will get reposted on twitter without naming the dox source. It's what happened to the monkey abusers after all.
@laurel@iamtakingiteasy@lina@mint 1 is no biggie since it's to spook them more than anything. slapping literal ?iamapedophile at the end of every url may be even more effective than something sneaky 2 is raped & gaped