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Lunarised (lunarised@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:10:21 JST Lunarised Hey, Pleroma nerds.
I finished a db prune and my db is still 68GB for what i thought was a small instance. I did the vacuum afterwards
Am i fucked?
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:10:17 JST @Lunarised @p It's normal, my DB is around 60 gigs as well and that's after deleting most of the unneccesary objects. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:22:43 JST pistolero @mint @Lunarised
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The MILF Messiah (lunarised@whinge.town)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:37:17 JST The MILF Messiah @mint @Lunarised @p I got it down to 40GB, which gives me more breathing room I guess. Might reindex it all sometime likes this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:37:28 JST pistolero @Lunarised
> I finished a db prune and my db is still 68GB for what i thought was a small instance. I did the vacuum afterwards
Well, worst-case you can dump and restore. I don't know what is being pruned, since I have never used the DB-pruning tool. You could try manually removing the activities/objects that are older than a certain date (and that are not Follow/Accept/Block), or just delete all of the Like/Announce/EmojiReact/Update/Delete activities.
You wanna check the table sizes for all of the tables.
Other than that, what's wrong with the DB being 68GB? That's how big they are.The MILF Messiah likes this. -
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The MILF Messiah (lunarised@whinge.town)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:37:59 JST The MILF Messiah @p @Lunarised just trying to keep the storage under control. Only have 120GB in the frantech box -
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on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:55:59 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ @Lunarised @p i think we really need to manage the db size expectations better -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:58:39 JST pistolero @lunarised @Lunarised Until we moved to our own box, I used to just make regular backups and I'd dump/restore when it got too big, because that took us down for less time than a full vacuum. People allegedly have a good time with pg_repack, but I have used it once and it fucks up if it is interrupted (like if you are running low on disk space and you attempt to run it to free up disk space and then it runs out of disk space), and even fucks up the *dump*. The MILF Messiah and ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: like this. -
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The MILF Messiah (lunarised@whinge.town)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 19:59:07 JST The MILF Messiah @p @Lunarised im gonna need to learn how to dump and restore sometime then! -
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The MILF Messiah (lunarised@whinge.town)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:07:54 JST The MILF Messiah @lain @Lunarised @p I'm just mentally slow and am not entirely sure what a reasonable size is -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:09:00 JST pistolero @lunarised @Lunarised `pg_dump>file.sql` and `psql<file.sql`. You can put your favorite bytestream compressor in the pipeline if you like. (This is recommended.) ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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The MILF Messiah (lunarised@whinge.town)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:10:00 JST The MILF Messiah @p @Lunarised stop speaking witch. Now I gotta learn bytestteam compression....
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on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:10:04 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ @lunarised @Lunarised @p it's a reasonable size and database size does not impact perfomance greatly unless you haven't changed your postgres settings: https://docs.pleroma.social/backend/configuration/postgresql/ The MILF Messiah and Pleroma-tan like this. -
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The MILF Messiah (lunarised@whinge.town)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:10:52 JST The MILF Messiah @lain @Lunarised @p was only worried since drive was nearly full, and I'm too poor to upgrade In conversation permalink on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ likes this. -
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RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:39:08 JST RedTechEngineer @p @Lunarised @lunarised the @p stands for plumber In conversation permalink and The MILF Messiah like this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:39:09 JST pistolero @lunarised @Lunarised I'm just talking about pipes. `pg_dump | gzip > file.sql.gz` or `bzip2` or `pbzip2` or `pigz` or `lz4` or whatever. The data going down a pipe is a bytestream, I meant something that is friendly to put in a pipeline. In conversation permalink The MILF Messiah likes this.The MILF Messiah repeated this. -
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The MILF Messiah (lunarised@whinge.town)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:39:25 JST The MILF Messiah @RedTechEngineer @Lunarised @p possibly the best fedi post I've ever seen In conversation permalink -
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:blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:39:36 JST :blank: @p @Lunarised @lain @lunarised rebuilding indexes, which are half or a third the size of the table itself, also takes down the instance any time the autovaccum comes on unless you run on a modern ssd raid, and even then, postgresql struggles to keep stuff real time In conversation permalink The MILF Messiah likes this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:39:37 JST pistolero @lain @lunarised @Lunarised
> database size does not impact perfomance greatly
Some of the indexes get massive, and they stop fitting in RAM. Indexes living on a large number of non-consecutive inodes can slow things down a lot.
He's worried about running out of disk, though, and "instance does not come on" is the worst performance. :craysmile:In conversation permalink on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ and The MILF Messiah like this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:58:20 JST pistolero @i @Lunarised @lunarised
> as it avoids the https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/activities-visibility-index-slowness.html issue when restoring,
Ah, I should update that; putting the connection into replica mode actually speeds it *way* the hell up.
> https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/2228488
Did Gleason seriously try to use nano on a DB dump? "Editing dumps / I have no idea." The JavaScript guy doesn't think to use awk or sed, huge shock. Someone should tell him (or, since he mercifully has gone away to Nostr, someone should maybe upload some better instructions).
> with --rsyncable
I didn't know about this flag, but it appears to be a Debian extension. pbzip2 does fine.
The bigger issue with this person's approach is that you will have to copy every block every time anyway; pg_dump gives you the dump in disk-order, and in a database where there are large tables with any amount of churn (Pleroma, this database), you will get a different order every time you dump, so rsync will not be able to just move the blocks that have changed.
(Postgres does row-versioning and deletes rows in place by marking them as deleted. To keep the data consistent during transactions, if there is an update, rows are COW'd. New rows get put into empty slots where they fit, overwriting previous deletions.)In conversation permalink Attachments
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:blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 20:58:22 JST :blank: @p @Lunarised @lunarised a better guide is, https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/2228488 as it avoids the https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/activities-visibility-index-slowness.html issue when restoring, and http://www.aktau.be/2014/10/23/pg-dump-and-pigz-easy-rsyncable-backups-with-postgresql/ with --rsyncable makes backing it up to another server easier
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:20:27 JST Lina Inver?e @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised we officially outlasted the soyboy In conversation permalink -
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Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:20:28 JST Pawlicker @p @i @Lunarised @lunarised fun fact Gleason hasn't been updating copebox otp builds and he's pushing people towards his nostr (deader than bsky) fetishism this month now In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:20:47 JST Lina Inver?e @PurpCat @Lunarised @i @lunarised @p hey doesnt this mean copebox instances will wither away too In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:23:32 JST Lina Inver?e @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised lol, anyway yea i think he'll either return eventually or he'll actually stay there and copebox will die and with it will the copebox instances
WHICH IS GOOD THERE ISN'T A SINGLE GOOD COPEBOX INSTANCE HOW THE FUCK IS THE SOFTWARE TIED TO COMPLETELY CRINGE INSTANCES UNLIKE PLEMORAIn conversation permalink -
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Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:23:33 JST Pawlicker @lina @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised the only person I know trying to mess with his nostr stack is a Gleason disciple with no original thoughts of his own and oh btw it also is broken as fuck and has fewer people In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:25:23 JST Lina Inver?e @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised its only a matter of time In conversation permalink -
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Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:25:24 JST Pawlicker @lina @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised imagine how funny it'd be if graf came out as a chaser or furry 🤣 In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:26:00 JST Lina Inver?e @Cocoa @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised oh wait, you run copebox? thank God there's one good copebox instance then In conversation permalink -
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Cocoa Hoto in real life (cocoa@nekosat.work)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:26:01 JST Cocoa Hoto in real life @lina @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised yeah I need to figure out how to migrate to stock Pleroma one of these days In conversation permalink -
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Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:29:46 JST Sick Sun @p @i @phnt @Lunarised @lunarised he took a grant do develop some software so he's nose on grindstone mode. In conversation permalink -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:29:47 JST pistolero @phnt @Lunarised @i @lunarised
> because you can't use --disable-triggers as a normal user.
Yeah, he mentions that you should run it as a superuser.
> So that's why I haven't seen any of his posts in weeks.
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:29:49 JST Phantasm @p @i @Lunarised @lunarised
>Gleason
Gleason's guide will also fail when restoring the backup, because you can't use --disable-triggers as a normal user. It needs to have the superuser option set or it needs to be restored as the postgres user instead of the pleroma user.
>Gone away to Nostr
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:32:46 JST Lina Inver?e @p @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @lunarised just leave it to someone who enjoys rolling around in shit to find it, i can't be assed personally In conversation permalink -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:32:47 JST pistolero @PurpCat @lina @Lunarised @i @lunarised The chats got leaked; if that was the case, it'd be in there somewhere. In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:33:38 JST Lina Inver?e @phnt @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @Cocoa @lunarised i fear the soyboy having a hateboner for plemora in fact did not In conversation permalink -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:33:39 JST Phantasm @Cocoa @PurpCat @i @lina @Lunarised @p @lunarised Pray that the migrations he wrote are written properly and are reversible. In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:38:18 JST Lina Inver?e @p @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @lunarised true, he has enough eyes on him, but he's already considered a terminally alcoholic FTM troon with how many hissy fits he throws In conversation permalink -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:38:19 JST pistolero @lina @Lunarised @PurpCat @i @lunarised Yeah, I mean the people that enjoy that have had a year with them. If there was anything that bad, it would have come out. In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:43:03 JST Lina Inver?e @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised there's two moments
firstly: it's not new, i heard it for a year or so now
secondly: i don't really care because i don't mention them frequentlyIn conversation permalink -
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Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:43:04 JST Pawlicker @lina @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised pooner is the new insult for them btw In conversation permalink -
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NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:47:21 JST NonPlayableClown I mean he did get raped by a 300 lb woman and a uber driver.
What more do you want from the man 🤣
Oh one thing that the logs were revealed is that he's "jokingly" a bug chaser. :SeethingDanielS:In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:47:21 JST Lina Inver?e @NonPlayableClown @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised the unicode emoji makes me doubt your claims, i get my e-celeb gossip only from trusted types, not disguised e-celeb worshippers In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:50:05 JST Lina Inver?e @NonPlayableClown @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised that fat guy chudbuds couldnt stfu about and this crackhead purpcat posts about occasionally for starters, i'm sure there's more im unaware of In conversation permalink -
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NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:50:06 JST NonPlayableClown >disguised e-celeb worshippers
What e-celeb do you think I worship 🤔In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:52:47 JST Lina Inver?e @p @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @NonPlayableClown @lunarised sure thing tommy garcia In conversation permalink Attachments
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:52:48 JST pistolero @NonPlayableClown @lina @PurpCat
:pinkwojak: graf
👩 graf
:pinkwojak: graf
👩 graf
Hey, @Lunarised @lunarised @i, I'm going to bail out of this thread so if there's more database stuff to discuss and I might be able to help, please tag me in a different thread.In conversation permalink The MILF Messiah likes this. -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:53:46 JST Lina Inver?e @NonPlayableClown @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised there's only a few fat guys that drama obsessed flesh automatons worship nonstop, and as far as im aware, those types dont watch cartoons In conversation permalink -
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NonPlayableClown (nonplayableclown@postnstuffds.lol)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:53:47 JST NonPlayableClown >that fat guy
Man that narrows it down.
I'm going to assume it's Petah.
Which tbf I did one point of my life.In conversation permalink Attachments
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:55:25 JST Lina Inver?e @sysrq @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @NonPlayableClown @lunarised when i saw the thumbnail again after being on fedi for some time, i immediately recognized 's avatar in tommy garcia In conversation permalink -
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tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:55:26 JST tsoifan1997 @lina @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @NonPlayableClown @lunarised
Obscure reference.In conversation permalink -
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Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:57:26 JST Pawlicker @lina @i @Lunarised @p @NonPlayableClown @lunarised so glad I outgrew the edrama shit ngl In conversation permalink -
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:57:26 JST Lina Inver?e @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @NonPlayableClown @lunarised yea, that shit's just gay In conversation permalink -
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Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 22:14:43 JST Pleroma-tan @p @PurpCat @i @lina @Lunarised @Cocoa @lunarised where In conversation permalink -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 22:14:44 JST pistolero @lina @Cocoa @Lunarised @PurpCat @i @lunarised And btrf.ly has announced that they're going to be moving to stock Pleroma. In conversation permalink Attachments
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:14:12 JST @i @PurpCat @lina @Lunarised @p @Cocoa @lunarised There's quite a few divergences, but less than in ackoma and nothing critical like password hash changes. Some new fields in users table might be troublesome, though.
$ diff -uar <(ls -1 rebased/priv/repo/migrations) <(ls -1 pleroma/priv/repo/migrations) --- /proc/self/fd/11 2024-07-04 17:10:27.018383357 +0300 +++ /proc/self/fd/12 2024-07-04 17:10:27.019383356 +0300 @@ -274,7 +274,6 @@ 20210401143153_user_notification_settings_fix.exs 20210416051708_remove_mastofe_settings_from_users.exs 20210420204354_delete_hashtags_objects_cascade.exs -20210612185407_add_email_list_field_to_users.exs 20210717000000_add_poll_to_notifications_enum.exs 20210818023112_add_user_id_to_apps.exs 20211121000000_create_user_notes.exs @@ -287,10 +286,8 @@ 20220125104429_add_birthday_month_day_index_to_users.exs 20220203224011_create_rules.exs 20220220135625_upload_filter_exiftool_to_exiftool_strip_location.exs -20220225164000_add_activity_assigned_account_index.exs 20220302013920_add_language_to_users.exs 20220308012601_create_announcements.exs -20220314220000_add_location_to_users.exs 20220319000000_add_status_to_notifications_enum.exs 20220506175506_add_index_hotspots.exs 20220509180452_change_thread_visibility_to_be_local_only_aware.exs @@ -298,21 +295,23 @@ 20220602052233_change_report_notes_content_to_text.exs 20220605185734_add_update_to_notifications_enum.exs 20220616163503_add_expires_at_to_user_relationships.exs -20220624104914_create_webhooks.exs 20220711182322_add_associated_object_id_function.exs 20220711192750_switch_to_associated_object_id_index.exs 20220807125023_data_migration_delete_context_objects.exs -20220819171321_add_pleroma_participation_accepted_to_notifications_enum.exs 20220821004840_change_thread_visibility_to_use_new_object_id_index.exs 20220905011454_generate_unset_user_keys.exs -20220927220033_add_last_move_at_to_users.exs -20221029171353_add_internal_to_webhooks.exs 20221103014611_create_oban_peers.exs 20221103014728_swap_primary_oban_indexes.exs 20221111164213_deprecate_quack.exs -20221207235104_add_events_index.exs 20221216052127_add_state_to_backups.exs 20230306112859_instances_add_metadata.exs 20230422154018_drop_unused_indexes.exs 20230504173400_remove_user_ap_enabled.exs 20231107200724_consolidate_email_queues.exs +20240207035927_create_rich_media_card.exs +20240223165000_create_bookmark_folders.exs +20240406000000_add_hint_to_rules.exs +20240527144418_oban_queues_refactor.exs +20240530011739_add_missing_foreign_keys.exs +20240608003957_upgrade_oban_jobs_to_v12.exs +20240619141319_deprecate_config_db_logger.exsIn conversation permalink -
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:blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:14:14 JST :blank: @PurpCat @lina @Lunarised @p @Cocoa @mint @lunarised for rebased, i don't think there's even been breaking changes to the DB schema, worth trying to just run pleroma off the same DB with no rollbacks In conversation permalink -
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Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:14:15 JST Pawlicker @Cocoa @i @lina @Lunarised @p @lunarised cc @mint In conversation permalink -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:25:21 JST @Cocoa @PurpCat @i @lina @Lunarised @p @lunarised I've sent him a patch here on fedi for the report rejecting MRF to reject reports sent to third-party users (Gargron spam update, https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/27219), he accepted it but later I figured out I fucked it up and it was rejecting *all* remote report. I've made a bugfix and sent it to him twice, he acknowledged it first time but never bothered to commit it. Couldn't make a proper MR because shitlab's cloudflare check on login page dehumanizes me. In conversation permalink Attachments
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Cocoa Hoto in real life (cocoa@nekosat.work)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:25:22 JST Cocoa Hoto in real life @lina @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @lunarised back when I first started the instance copebox was the more frequently updated fork so that's what I went with
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Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:58:16 JST Lina Inver?e @cow @PurpCat @i @Lunarised @p @Cocoa @lunarised cow reference has arrive In conversation permalink -
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cow@m.moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.ooo's status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 23:58:18 JST cow @Cocoa @lunarised @PurpCat @lina @Lunarised @i @p install mitra
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Cocoa Hoto in real life (cocoa@nekosat.work)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 00:23:48 JST Cocoa Hoto in real life @mint @PurpCat @i @lina @Lunarised @p @lunarised I imagine reverting all Soapbox migrations and running the stock Pleroma migrations would fix that? I rarely mess with the database so I wouldn't know exactly how to do that, but I'm sure it's possible In conversation permalink -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 05-Jul-2024 00:23:48 JST @Cocoa @PurpCat @i @lina @Lunarised @p @lunarised It should, yes. I don't remember what exact commad one needs to run to revert a single migration, though. In conversation permalink
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