@sickburnbro Heatpump driers are way more efficient so I hope this doesn't make manufacturers get greedy and sell us resistive heaters again, those suck. New machines are bad because everything is made in china for pennies now and the companies are just fleecing you.
@WandererUber who knows. the answer to that kind of stuff is more complicated, but the key here is that businessmen are more than willing to sell you shitty expensive appliances that break and then when you complain, they say "government forces us with environmental regulations" and then people have mostly just sucked it up.
@skylar@sickburnbro The efficiency requirements made your drier drop 66% in power consumption. That's not a circuit board, that's because they made them put in heatpumps instead of resistive heaters. And that's good actually. Heatpump compressors can run reliably forever so they're not "fancy" either, they're in every fridge ever and the old ones still run great. The circuit boards are in there because they want your device on the internet so they can break it via patch to make you buy a new one.
I think these fuckers are going to ruin it for everyone and new driers will have "fancy control boards" that constantly break and also terrible heaters that burn money basically. It's gonna get worse.
@WandererUber@sickburnbro heat pump dryers are pretty rare, cause they're around the $1500-2000 range rather than the $400-600 dryers normal people buy you'd need to dry a hell of a lot of clothes and have it last for a long ass time to make up the difference in energy cost between a 7kW resistance heating element and a 24k(?) BTU/hr heat pump
the "energy saving" garbage most folks are familiar with involves that shitty circuit board, that has an "energy saver" mode. what does it do? make the dryer do a dogshit job and stop drying while the clothes are still damp.
@sickburnbro@WandererUber i doubt anything will improve manufacturers are more than happy to use fancy control boards full of ICs over electromechanical controls even when there's no efficiency requirements for it
@skylar@WandererUber same with window AC units - most of the "energy savings" is "haha, we're not going to cool at 2° above what you set it at and turn on the fan!
@TeaTootler something like that. I wonder what the story behind that is. I hope it's something like he was trying to use a modern dish washer and it said 3 hours and he came back and it still hadn't done shit and was personally offended.
@WandererUber@skylar@sickburnbro Heatpump compressors can run reliably forever so they're not "fancy" either, they're in every fridge ever and the old ones still run great.
The OLD ones run great. New refrigerants required to save the ozone run at higher pressures and puts more strain on the pumps and piping. You think those got upgraded to fit? Nope, now your fridge fails in 5 yrs just after warranty ends and heads to the landfill. That's sure more efficient and cost saving.
@RobCaruso@WandererUber@skylar the worst thing about the higher pressures required is it makes all of the compressors make sounds that drive me insane.
@skylar@sickburnbro lol didn't see that. idk I didn't pay 2000 for mine but I've had it for a while, works great. Everything's kinda expensive after covid.
my dishwasher starts in eco mode, so you always have to switch to "i want it to actually work" mode or your dishes don't get cleaned. Annoying. Maybe I should try the "Eco" mode again now that I've watched that Technology Connections video about dishwashers.
@WandererUber@skylar what's interesting is that if you pay a few hundred extra for the stuff it seems to remember the last settings, so if you turned it off on "get this shit done, damn the feds" mode, it will remember it.
@skylar@sickburnbro I don't know where you're getting these numbers. I found one for $600 in 2 minutes. universal-akb.com/dv22n6800hw.html They're more expensive but not 2x. Usually it's worth it because of the savings.
Never had those kinds of problems, but that might be because I don't try to save energy by pressing a button with a leaf on it. I like the actual technologies. People are way too gullible.
@WandererUber@sickburnbro i'm glad they showed a picture of it next to normal sized dryers so we could see what was wrong with it and why it's cheaper. i'm not entirely opposed to a heat pump dryer, but like hell would i put up with some midget ass dryer.
the biggest tragedy of "energy saving" shit is it's typically on by default every time you use the damn thing. if you forget to turn it off, then the dryer does a terrible job.
@WandererUber@sickburnbro a hot water recirc pump is one of the best things i've installed my kitchen sink takes a few seconds to get hot water rather than like a minute but i also keep the water heater at like 150 degrees so any dirt on dishes just rinses right off if held under the faucet
@sapphire@skylar@WandererUber I just don't want to be up at 3am shit talking a pump - "can this little bitch not handle a little pReSsUrE?! STEP IT UP!"