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    jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 03:16:40 JST jwz jwz

    Mozilla is an advertising company now.

    This seems completely normal and cool and not troublesome in any way.

    Mozilla has acquired Anonym, a [blah blah blah] raise the bar for the advertising industry [blah blah blah] while delivering effective...
    https://jwz.org/b/ykVg

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      Mozilla is an advertising company now
      from @jwz
      This seems completely normal and cool and not troublesome in any way. Mozilla has acquired Anonym, a [blah blah blah] raise the bar for the advertising industry [blah blah blah] while delivering effective advertising solutions. [...] Anonym was founded with two core beliefs: [blah blah blah] and second, that digital advertising is critical for the sustainability of free content, services and ...
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      13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 03:16:39 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat
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      @jwz fuck's sake, I literally just recommended Mozilla in print on the strength that they weren't. Sorry everyone, this one's on me. 😑

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      jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 06:28:01 JST jwz jwz
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      Preemptive subtwit.

      Let's say you run a nonprofit animal shelter. And for some reason, some people feel you should be seeing hockey-stick growth, but the donations aren't covering it.

      So you decide to start up a side-line of selling kittens for meat.

      Then you will inevitably have someone stroking their chin and saying, 'Yes, yes, but how could they afford to stay open if they weren't selling kitten deli slices?"

      Some might say -- maybe you aren't an animal shelter any more. Some might say.

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      kfringe (kfringe@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 14:03:07 JST kfringe kfringe
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      @jwz Let me get this straight:

      Mozilla, which is perpetually short of money and facing dire funding shortfalls, bought an advertising company that was so wildly successful that it could be purchased by a non-profit that was perpetually short of money and facing dire funding shortfalls?

      Sure reads like a successful company to me! I'm sure this will work out great, and isn't just a deal brokered by a VC to get an underperforming investment off his balance sheet before it cratered.

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      Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar (yngmar@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 15:21:35 JST Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar Y⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmar
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      @jwz Jesus, did they get infiltrated by hostile management? Like when SGI hired a CEO who came from HP, fucked up SGI real good by trying to replace Irix with Windows NT and then went to work at Microsoft?

      It can't just be normal corporate incompetence anymore, can it?

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      13 barn owls in a trenchcoat (hauntedowlbear@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 16:36:12 JST 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat
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      • o ifrit

      @ifrit @jwz Yep this is definitely the direction some very fast copy updating is going in.

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      o ifrit (ifrit@masto.ai)'s status on Friday, 21-Jun-2024 16:36:13 JST o ifrit o ifrit
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      • 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat

      @HauntedOwlbear @jwz You can still recommend Firefox forks like LibreWolf for PC or Mull for Android 👌

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      traecer (traecer@techhub.social)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jun-2024 12:01:20 JST traecer traecer
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      • ulrike

      @ulrike @jwz pretty sure @jwz knows how Mozilla works, having helped establish it in the first place.

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      ulrike (ulrike@pouet.chapril.org)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jun-2024 12:01:22 JST ulrike ulrike
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      @jwz Mozilla has been financed by ads since 20 years. This pays the people working on the browser. 99% of the work is actually done by employees, not by volunteers. Acquiring that advertising company is the next logical step to get rid of Google (also financed by ads..) Instead of blaming shaming, we need to think about how to finance working on free software, as relying on unpaid work is not viable and brings issues with diversity.

      #mozilla #foss #fossecosystem

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      jwz (jwz@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 18-Jul-2024 11:38:47 JST jwz jwz
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      • Erich Gubler

      @erichdongubler In a word, fuck that. https://mastodon.social/@jwz/112793288192903557

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        @bignose@sw-development-is.social It's the same-old declaration of surrender. "Ad surveillance is a war we've decided we can't win, so we're going to redefine success and hope you don't notice." "We’ve been collaborating with Meta on this" is what the turkey says while voting for Christmas.
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      Erich Gubler (erichdongubler@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 18-Jul-2024 11:38:48 JST Erich Gubler Erich Gubler
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      @jwz You might be interested in this post from my coworker that tries to give more insight into why Mozilla thinks this (or, at least, PPA in general) is important for the future: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1e43w7v/a_word_about_private_attribution_in_firefox/

      In conversation about 11 months ago permalink

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