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   collatz (collatz@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jun-2024 22:49:05 JST collatz
   Grapes! Never had any form from this vine before, but it finally went in-ground last season and I guess got roots around well enough to do the job.
   
   Wasn't really monitoring, removing weak grapes, and checking for pests so we've got some really spotty bunches, but with insect netting on now, hopefully there'll be something in the fall.
   
   Only pest I've found was a single eight-spotted forester moth caterpillar, and I'm reading that they don't tend to do much damage. I am unfortunately seeing a bunch of the otherwise-strong/growing grapes get the necrotic spots you can see in the final image, and I've got no idea what that is yet. Fingers crossed I guess.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jun-2024 22:49:04 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @collatz Those look fantastic! It looks like you already have clear soil near the vine's point of grounding, which is the biggest concern nutrients. Have you pruned at all or waiting a few more seasons? Supposedly it makes a considerable difference for sweetness pruning early in the season so all the energy goes into the grapes.
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     collatz (collatz@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 12:10:35 JST collatz

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     @BowsacNoodle Thanks! Ah, interesting - Well, I haven't trimmed w/ that in mind, although I've removed any shoots that weren't producing a bunch. My plan was to let it grow along two something-like-6ft-spans this year; pick the strongest-looking shoots; trim to only those and let them grow woody; then finally keep it that size and focus on whatever produces the strongest bunches. Sounds like that may work?, although I'll have to get specific on what you're talking about once I've established the basic form.
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     jobanab (jobanab@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 12:11:23 JST jobanab

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     @collatz @BowsacNoodle I haven't trimmed my grapes in 4 years and the fruit is looking like your third picture - the green to rot. I'm working on a severe Japanese beetle infestation so that could be part of the issue, the grapes away from the beetles are doing fine tho.
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     collatz (collatz@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 08-Jul-2024 12:11:23 JST collatz

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     @jobanab @BowsacNoodle yeah we got the japanese beetles something fierce this year. I finally had those bag-traps w/ baits that smell kind of like cinnamon - seem to be working fairly well. I don't have chickens but I've heard that since it just tricks the beetles rather than poisons them, you can even go reuse them as a treat.
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