@sim@FeartnTired@Flick Even bloody Sissinghurst is wittering on about "Queer" at the moment, Vita was a LESBIAN, not "queer". She was a woman who was a LESBIAN, ffs. I wish they would all stop this crap.
Does anyone else want to ban V-shaped necklines on clothing in polite society, especially the deep ones, or is it just me? It draws the eyes downwards to the body which is distracting.
@sim@FeartnTired@Flick I'm very short, therefore everything is a problem re fit, but I swear the V has been getting lower. I tried on a wrap dress yesterday that bought in sale, immediate return. Yes, I have big boobs and that does not help, but it was cut so low, badly too, drooped on one side, and had I gone for next size up re front coverage it would have been too big elsewhere. As it was it would have needed shortening for me in the hem. I had to speak to a student nurse on placement once, met her again in a different job, had to speak to her again, V neck very low, boobs all clambering for swift release, highly inappropriate for the situations she was in at the time. I was astonished.
@sim@FeartnTired@Flick Oh, I cannot bear that, and that dreadful thing of having their drawers on show. I snapped at one once in a pull your pants up at once, you are in the presence of ladies, this little prick in shop with old ladies around, all looking aghast.
@HebrideanHecate@FeartnTired@Flick Yeah. When did our standards of dress become so loose? It seems to me that we have taken things too far in our rejection of traditional standards in polite society. In our fight towards equality, men no longer show respect and deference to ladies. These are things they would not show to each other unless something like rank necessitated it. I don't know if this has really benefited women. I don't think we should go back entirely but there are some common sense things we should bring back for daily living now.
@FeartnTired@Flick I do wonder how it impacted women that wouldn't want that kink association but were affectionate with female friends or partner. But I agree, there should be a balance. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not interested in seeing any public displays of kink whatever the sexuality. I'm not in public to participate sexually with anyone else, not even to watch. So they want to push something more. To erode our boundaries and the standards of polite/public society.
@sim@Flick agree. I think holding hands, even kissing is fine, but anything under the heading of "get a room" they should do that, and public kink is abuse of the viewer.
Mind you, we seem to have a problem with the standards of dress in public now too. More specifically the lack of it. Men are the worst perpetrators of this because so many will walk around shirtless. Put a shirt on, mate.
@FeartnTired@Flick I wonder if we would even have those adverts if they weren't held back by rules that they need to be family-friendly before the watershed. How many of them would become erotic? This is what pride seems to be about... defining sexuality from the lens of sexual activity which had been forbidden. It was interesting how prior to this, lesbianism had some acceptance and values between female friendships. "Enduring loyalty, devotion, and love were major components to these stories, and sexual acts beyond kissing were consistently absent." "Faderman calls this period "the last breath of innocence" before 1920 when characterizations of female affection were connected to sexuality, marking lesbians as a unique and often unflatteringly portrayed group." It is interesting.
I hate to say this but men have probably ruined this perception too.
@sim@Flick there is nothing wrong with eroticism and sexual attraction. it's just the way it's pushed above all else, and has tipped into public displays of kink.
@sim@Flick there's be a few TRA projects about Lesbians featuring nice young couples, despite them being very obviously teens/early 20s women, they were being used to illustrate an article or project for TIMs. ick.
@FeartnTired@Flick Yeah, that is the other problem that I found. Hard to tell whether they are minors or not sometimes. I want to see depictions of lesbianism with consenting adult women doing everyday things. If I were an artist, then this is what I might focus on now because it seems to be lacking or I'm just not sure where to find it. There is erotica but that is not what I'm looking for I think.
the rainbow pride that was.... just the rainbow, "love is love". we need a bit of that back.
does anyone have photos or artwork of Lesbian couple/family for Prude Pride? that is... love is love, fully dressed, unpornified, suitable to be seen in public, being completely normal, as a same sex couple. age, ethnicity, and style of dress damn will ought to vary that's the only diversity we need.
Although it has been a bit more difficult to find. And I got exposed to pride parade images which made me feel a bit ill with the fetishism. The price paid to discover the wholesome! It has led me back down the rabbit hole of Lesbianism too. I kind of miss it being more innocent.