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    lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 21:55:32 JST lainy lainy
    Last week i read a few articles about scientific studies that seem to show that

    - people forget everything they learn in school, unless they already know it from general osmosis
    - people also forget everything they learn in university, but it doesn't matter because people don't go there to learn but to get a degree
    - scientists (especially sociologists) do not understand statistics, not even statisticians
    - the likelihood of a paper passing peer review is only lightly correlated to the quality of the paper

    I guess the first thing explains why it seems to matter so little (after a decade) whether you send a kid to a regular school or do something like homeschooling or montessori. Although it's hard to say if this applies to all kinds of schooling or just to the current degree-based system.
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      bartholin (bartholin@fops.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 21:59:32 JST bartholin bartholin
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      @lain I'm in this picture and I don't like it
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 22:16:26 JST lainy lainy
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      @bonifartius i'll look through my history
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      :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 22:16:29 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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      @lain have you links to those articles? sounds interesting

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      :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 22:17:30 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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      @lain also explains why i failed in all institutions, i wanted to learn things..

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      CapitalB (capitalb@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 22:45:59 JST CapitalB CapitalB
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      @bonifartius @lain

      Our final class still knows a lot from that time. We meet regularly. We had a tinfoiler as a history teacher and an openly alcoholic for math. Others were even weirder. The supposedly worse a teacher was the better they taught us.
      The blanks were the normies. They failed hard.

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      kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 23:14:22 JST kaia kaia
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      @lain school is only a place to park children while both parents have to work :aurashrug: wow 30 children and only requiring one medium safaried teacher
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      billiam :4chan: (billiam@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 23:45:57 JST billiam :4chan: billiam :4chan:
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      @bonifartius @lain this will cover much of it
      https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=-Ullu_yTzuY
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        On Trusting Academic Experts (Why You Shouldn't)
        Subscribe star: https://www.subscribestar.com/sean-last Sources: https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/06/25/on-trusting-academic-experts/
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 25-May-2024 23:46:51 JST lainy lainy
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      • billiam :4chan:
      @billiam @bonifartius right, that was like half of it!
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      billiam :4chan: (billiam@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 00:08:08 JST billiam :4chan: billiam :4chan:
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      @lain @bonifartius alt hype also has some videos:
      >The Expertise of Experts
      https://altcensored.com/watch?v=J8nk7GrB-zs

      >The Authoritarian View of Knowledge: Peer Review
      https://altcensored.com/watch?v=zR38CtjD__o
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        The Expertise of Experts
        The Authoritarian View of Knowledge II: The Expertise of Experts --- Links --- Bit Chute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/thealthype/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheAltHypothesis/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Freesoilyeah SubscribeStar: https://www.subscribestar.com/ryan-faulk Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CoolTapes Website: https://thealternativehypothesis.org/ --- Sources ---- Study on Health Science Knowledge Retention: http://www.heqco.ca/SiteCollectionDocuments/How%20Much%20Do%20Students%20Remember%20Over%20Time.pdf Study on Consumer Behavior Class Knowledge Retention: http://www.uky.edu/~kdbrad2/EPE773R/StudentPapers/ConsumerBehavior.pdf Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College Knowledge Retention Study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1924649/ Knowledge Loss of First Year Science Students in Saskatchewan: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1397826/ Knowledge Decay in Economics Students: http://sci-hub.tw/10.2307/1182376 Cognitive Ability by Credential Level: https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/12/04/blacks-and-whites-with-equal-educational-attainment-differ-in-cognitive-ability/ Meta-Analysis of Old Studies on Retention of Basic Scientific Knowledge: http://sci-hub.tw/10.1007/s10459-008-9101-y University of Colorado Retention Study: https://www.cs.colorado.edu/~mozer/Research/Selected%20Publications/reprints/LindseyShroyerPashlerMozer2014.pdf Average Age of Doctorates: https://wayback.archive-it.org/5902/20160210153659/http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf06312/ Meta-Analysis on Statistical Prediction Rules: http://sci-hub.tw/10.1037/1040-3590.12.1.19 IQ Decline in the US: https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.paid.2015.12.035 Papers on Academic Mobbing: http://sci-hub.tw/10.2753/ATP1084-1806320103 http://sci-hub.se/10.1080/13594320801969707 http://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10672-012-9193-7 Hoel and Cooper 2000: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8321/ffcc35416b266ccd84e0da63fb3348bfb5ac.pdf (Published on Aug 22, 2019)
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        The Authoritarian View of Knowledge: Peer Review
        Donate: https://www.subscribestar.com/ryan-faulk https://www.patreon.com/CoolTapes Social Media: https://twitter.com/Freesoilyeah https://www.facebook.com/TheAltHypothesis/ === Time Stamps: 5:55 - Big vs. Small Journals 11:51 - Judging Methodology Based on Conclusions 15:59 - BMJ Study on Error Identification Rate 17:37 - Prestige and Paper Acceptance 22:59 - Inter-Rate Reliability 24:17 - Does "Peer Review" CAUSE Studies to be Better Done? 26:58 - A HOT TAKE on "Peer Review" Sources: 1. Reviewer Bias, Annals of Internal Medicine: http://sci-hub.tw/10.7326/0003-4819-116-11-958_2 2. Peer Review and Editorial Decision Making: http://sci-hub.tw/10.1192/bjp.173.2.110 3. Effect of Institutional Prestige on Reviewer's Recommendations and Editorial Decisions: http://sci-hub.tw/10.1001/jama.1994.03520020063017 4. Effect of Blinded Peer Review on Abstract Acceptance: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/202669 5. Double-Blind Peer Review Failure Rate: https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1164/rccm.201711-2257LE https://blogs.plos.org/absolutely-maybe/2017/10/31/the-fractured-logic-of-blinded-peer-review-in-journals/ 6. Are Road Safety Evaluation Studies Published in Peer Reviewed Journals More Valid than Similar Studies not Published in Peer Reviewd Journals: http://sci-hub.tw/10.1016/S0001-4575(97)00068-7 7. A Reliability-Generalization Study of Journal Peer Reviews: A Multileval Meta-Analysis of Inter-Rater Reliability and Its Determinants: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0014331 8. Prestigious Science Journals Struggle to Reach Even Average Reliability: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2018.00037/full 9. Confirmational Response Bias Among Social Work Journals: http://sci-hub.tw/10.1177/016224399001500102 10. Testing for the Presence of Positive-Outcome Bias in Peer Review: http://sci-hub.tw/10.1001/archinternmed.2010.406 11. What errors do peer reviewers detect, and does training improve their ability to detect them? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2586872/ 12. Retracted Science and the Retraction Index https://iai.asm.org/content/79/10/3855.full 13. Reviewer bias in single- versus double-blind peer review https://www.pnas.org/content/114/48/12708 (Published on Jul 23, 2019)
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 00:11:35 JST lainy lainy
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      • billiam :4chan:
      @billiam @bonifartius here's the other half: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/a-theoretical-case-against-education?publication_id=89120&post_id=144900916&isFreemail=true&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxNjUxMTAyODIsInBvc3RfaWQiOjE0NDkwMDkxNiwiaWF0IjoxNzE2NDUyMTE0LCJleHAiOjE3MTkwNDQxMTQsImlzcyI6InB1Yi04OTEyMCIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.709u5RxG97mso0AW_WT5eJrZQrNwCq3hRRmSHoz0gEg&r=2qavwq&triedRedirect=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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        A Theoretical Case Against Education
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:51:11 JST lainy lainy
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      @luks_1996 why do so many people come out of school without any social skillz
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      luks1996 (luks_1996@rebel.ar)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:51:13 JST luks1996 luks1996
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      @lain
      School is just 4 socialisation. You will learn what really find interesting whether is in school or anywhere.

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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:57:05 JST lainy lainy
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      • luks1996
      @neo @luks_1996 sorry i'm out of school i don't think anymore
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      neo@shork.comfysnug.space's status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:57:06 JST neo neo
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      @lain@lain.com @luks_1996@rebel.ar If you think about it for a minute I'm sure you can figure it out.

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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:58:15 JST lainy lainy
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      @neo no thoughts, head empty
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      neo@shork.comfysnug.space's status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:58:16 JST neo neo
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      @lain@lain.com i don't believe you :p

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      luks1996 (luks_1996@rebel.ar)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:58:46 JST luks1996 luks1996
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      @lain
      Probably neurodivergence and not finding a group or a friend who you really connect. In primary school I manege to have a very sized group of friends because I went to kindergarden whit most of them. In High school was reduced to 3 and the majority of my friends now are from online circles. If didn't go to kindergarden or primary school I would be 10 times more fucked in the brain.

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      luks1996 (luks_1996@rebel.ar)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 04:59:29 JST luks1996 luks1996
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      @lain
      Also I'm from the mid 90's the atomization of social media didn't exists. Social media is a big factor in isolation.

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      billiam :4chan: (billiam@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 01:16:48 JST billiam :4chan: billiam :4chan:
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      @bonifartius @lain sure, search engines and algorithms aren't helpful for our content so it needs to be manually collated and shared

      alt hype is one of the main thinkers in the dissident right. He redpilled a lot of people who are now bigger than him

      I have a list of cool websites here:
      https://shitposter.world/notice/AhxLx5DQlOBPOnBEga
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        billiam :4chan: (@billiam@shitposter.world)
        Vintage merchants and interesting links >Single issue sites Race/Crime ~ https://mass-shootings.info/ | tracks mass shootings in the US http://fakehatecrimes.org/ | tracks fake hate crimes https:...
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      :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 01:16:49 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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      @billiam @lain both of you thanks for the links!

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      billiam :4chan: (billiam@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 01:16:50 JST billiam :4chan: billiam :4chan:
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      @lain @bonifartius ah yes, alt hype did a video on that a few years ago.

      >On The Rise Of Mandatory Schooling And Its Consequences
      https://invidious.drgns.space/watch?v=vxP875VyPvg
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        The Alternative Hypothesis __ On The Rise Of Mandatory Schooling And Its Consequences
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      billiam :4chan: (billiam@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 01:17:11 JST billiam :4chan: billiam :4chan:
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      @bonifartius @lain yandex can be very good for politically incorrect content
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      :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 27-May-2024 01:17:13 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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      @billiam @lain yeah, search engines really went to shit in the last years. really hard to find non mainstream stuff as everythimg gets lowered and "ℹ️ this was flagged misinformation by independent fact checkers" and so on.

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