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   d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:37:07 JST d
   you don't say
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:37:06 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     How much would it cost to replace your battery?
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:37:07 JST Rusty Crab

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     @deprecated_ii how are they computing that cost? I buy 1/3th as much gas using a hybrid vs my old car.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:46:18 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @deprecated_ii @RustyCrab Wear and tear and maintenance are surprisingly high especially if you pay dealership prices. You can look at consumer reports or AAA for their cost of ownership for X years, which assumes average mileage of 10-12k and divide from there. The first 36k miles or so, when basically everything is under warranty, there's almost no maintenance outside of oil changes, but it gets worse over time...
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     d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:46:19 JST d

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     @RustyCrab presumably it's a total cost thing including purchase price and maintenance
     
     but their math is retarded, it doesn't cost $3 to drive a mile. maybe $0.30
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     d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:46:27 JST d

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     @RustyCrab looking at the article the math is so obviously wrong it makes me think it was AI generated
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:46:27 JST Rusty Crab

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     @deprecated_ii that is a distinct possibility in the current year of our lord
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:46:34 JST Rusty Crab

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     @deprecated_ii including the purchase price would either defeat the point or be incredibly misleading on purpose. There's reasons people purchase teslas that aren't related to their cost to drive so the purchase price is incidental.
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     d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 10:46:52 JST d

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     @RustyCrab yeah, but EV people love to talk about how EVs are cheaper than ICE vehicles. they aren't, when you look at total cost of ownership and lifespan. not even close
     
     if someone wants to buy a $100,000 electric sports car that's fine, but I could put 500,000 miles on my car, buy another one, put 500,000 miles on that, and still have a lot of money left over vs buying an EV with similar capabilities (high ground clearance, AWD, 400 mile range)
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     @deprecated_ii @RustyCrab To that point, I think dealership maintenance for EVs does indeed make them a killer on this. The fact that Tesla can charge like 20k to replace a battery pack and heat sync when it's probably something that could be done for 5k solo or 10k at an independent shop.
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     Jonaschuzzlewit (jonaschuzzlewit@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 11:12:40 JST Jonaschuzzlewit

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     jew lawsuits make it impossible to do it differently. You will get sued by Latonka
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     soapone (soapone@pone.social)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 11:12:53 JST soapone

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     Isn't $3/mile standard write-off cost for taxes?

     The thing that makes electric cars so expensive is the battery replacement every dozen years or so.
     I literally can't use one regardless because I make somewhat regular driving trips in excess of 1000 miles.

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     d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 11:12:54 JST d

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     @BowsacNoodle @RustyCrab still nowhere near $3 a mile
     
     a $30k car that's a total lemon and needs a ton of maintenance and gets 25 mpg doesn't even crack $1 a mile
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     d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 06-May-2024 11:15:10 JST d

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     @soapone @RustyCrab @BowsacNoodle
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     @deprecated_ii @RustyCrab Factor in insurance and a few other factors and it might get closer. Electric has the interesting added cost in reas which use tiered pricing per KWH for peak, off-peak, and metered usage. I wouldn't be surprised if net electrical cost goes up dramatically for a lot of people who go full electric. Hybrid seems to make more sense to me; why not get more mpg and have a bit more power in the process? If they can pair those with better (non-cvt) transmissions, they'll be able to squeeze even more mpg out.