@Gozo @kjetil_kilhavn @levampyre @alter_unicorn @nash ism't that true for most revolutions, communist or not?
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Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:25 JST Wolf480pl - clacke likes this.
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(($; -)}™ Gozo Languedoc (gozo@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:26 JST (($; -)}™ Gozo Languedoc @kjetil_kilhavn @levampyre @wolf480pl @alter_unicorn @nash
Interesting [perhaps] side note:
I recently read that, in the run up to the Russian/Communist revolutions, no planning was made for what to do After. Once the revolution was won, no plans:
Confidence in the merits of Communism—faith in the power of the People—was so strong, it was assumed that society would just fall wonderfully into place.
Most of us know how That turned out.🤨
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(($; -)}™ Gozo Languedoc (gozo@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:27 JST (($; -)}™ Gozo Languedoc @kjetil_kilhavn @levampyre @wolf480pl @alter_unicorn @nash
If I read this correctly, the objective is "to let the perfect be the enemy of the good." I'm not familiar with many forms of "perfect" in our human way of doing things. This thought calls to mind a key term from my country's Constitution:
"A more perfect union." All us linguistic-type people Know that "perfect" is an absolute term, not relative. And yet, our Constitution.
I'll take Capitalism and hope We improve.😎
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(($; -)}™ Gozo Languedoc (gozo@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:28 JST (($; -)}™ Gozo Languedoc @kjetil_kilhavn @levampyre @wolf480pl @alter_unicorn @nash I disagree with "no-one has been able to make it work in practice." The world has seen many "great strides." In much of Europe, we see progress. Pre-Reagan, some 40 years in the U.S.
But as long as "simplistic" viewers trash Capitalism, without any replacement, we're a bit divided.😐
And not in a good way.😎
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Kjetil Kilhavn (kjetil_kilhavn@snabelen.no)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:28 JST Kjetil Kilhavn @Gozo @levampyre @wolf480pl @alter_unicorn @nash The existence of regulations is proof that no-one has made capitalism work. I acknowledge that there are different variations of capitalism that are fairly successful and stable, but pure capitalism has not been successful anywhere that I am aware of. Just like pure communism hasn't.
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Kjetil Kilhavn (kjetil_kilhavn@snabelen.no)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:29 JST Kjetil Kilhavn @levampyre @wolf480pl @alter_unicorn @nash Someone pointed out that your solution is much too simplistic. You're response is this. Grow up.
I would guess that what you really want is communism; people get what they need and contribute what they are able to. That's a great solution, but so far no-one has been able to make it work in practice. Same thing with capitalism, no-one has been able to make it work in practice either. -
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levampyre (levampyre@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:31 JST levampyre @wolf480pl Oh, how stupid I am! I hope, being so full of yourself won't leave you wanting on your death bed. However, I'm afraid, mocking every wish for equality and arrogantly displaying your supposed intellectual dominance over every other being around you will ever yield you anything of importance or value in your life.
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Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:32 JST Wolf480pl @levampyre @alter_unicorn @nash uhh yeah I sure need 1 ton of steel delivered to my house every year, in addition to 48kg of uranium, and 1/8000000th of the yearly production of every other material and product that people are making.
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levampyre (levampyre@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:33 JST levampyre @wolf480pl Yeah, well, time to try equal distribution then. @alter_unicorn @nash
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Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:34 JST Wolf480pl @alter_unicorn @nash
The problem is called resource allocation. Capitalism is the name of the algorithm we're currently using to find approximate solutions. It's far from ideal, but most other things that were tried turned out worse. -
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Fran :clapidi: :tux: (alter_unicorn@masto.bike)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2024 20:02:35 JST Fran :clapidi: :tux: @nash the biggest unsolved mathematics problem is capitalism.
Same for public health, public transportation, research and so on.