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   :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 18:53:01 JST :blobcathug:
   Mastodon lost the non-profit status, and they don't know why. Perhaps it could be because they are increasingly behaving more like a company?
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     Andy (pixel@desu.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 18:58:19 JST Andy

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     @Jain I mean, they mentioned the one logical thing.

     It's most likely because Patreon doesn't really count as donations, it counts as income.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 18:58:54 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Andy
     @pixel fair
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 18:59:34 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Andy
     @pixel i think they had patreon back then too
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     Andy (pixel@desu.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 19:00:50 JST Andy

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     @Jain Mastodon had a Patreon from pretty much the beginning.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:03:57 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Andy
     @pixel objectively you are correct, however its a good situation for subjective opinions :blobcatgiggle2:
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     Andy (pixel@desu.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:04:01 JST Andy

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     @Jain so, it kinda sucks that this happened, but even more so that the tax office is just unresponsive to why exactly they got their status removed.

     and so, considering Mastodon is going more international anyway, it going for a 501(c)3 org makes sense.

     and if it enables them to get more funding to pay their developers better, then that's all fair.

     this isn't as much "corpo bad" as people make it out to be.

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:09:33 JST kaia

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     @Jain enshittification?
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:12:56 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @Jain so when do the doomers come in and say mastodon is doomed and make half hearted attempts at transitioning people to other solutions
     
     okay really that's not a mockery towards you it's just something I see a lot of other people do when stuff like this happens and you are forced to just stare at them with a blank expression
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:14:08 JST iced depresso

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     @kirby @Jain i haven't really kept up with gaggy but weren't they doing weird corporate restructuring recently
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:22:09 JST Pleroma-tan

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     • iced depresso
     @icedquinn @Jain yeah and I saw people protesting about it, naturally the scenario I described should happen next, or not, I'm not god
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 20:23:52 JST iced depresso

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     • kaia
     @kaia @Jain after listening to O'Keefe i'm not sure if i would ever willingly create a 501(c) in this country tbh
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     Andy (pixel@desu.social)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 22:08:15 JST Andy

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     • mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)

     @moth_ball @Jain I'm not.

     If the Mastodon board starts grifting stuff, I'll consider my actions accordingly.

     At the moment, I don't see a reason to go into action already.

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     mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部) (moth_ball@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 22:08:16 JST mothball蛾玉 (和文化研究部)

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     @pixel @Jain the volume of grifting is rising and you're just happily lapping it up
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     Fuchsiii~~~ (fuchsiii@oxytodon.com)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 23:27:11 JST Fuchsiii~~~

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     @Jain I’m more surprised that they got it in the first place. Open source work (in most cases) in Germany does not qualify for non-profit status as courts ruled some years ago (2015 or 2016 or something). But maybe mastodon is older than that.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2024 23:27:24 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Fuchsiii~~~
     @fuchsiii didnt know that
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     Fuchsiii~~~ (fuchsiii@oxytodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:12:16 JST Fuchsiii~~~

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     @Jain I mean its not impossible but quite hard and depends a lot on phrasing.

     “Our organisation wants to support the development of a alternative to SAP databases free of corresponding software patents" -> ruled by a judge to not be non-profit because it excludes the group of ppl wanting/profiting (legaly from) software patents

     The german KDE non-profit is doing fine for decades now. I suspect the issue with mastodon lies in some of these little details.

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     Fuchsiii~~~ (fuchsiii@oxytodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:13:51 JST Fuchsiii~~~

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     @Jain oh and a german non profit is allowed to finance by other means than donations. You could take Patreons and sell gamer girl pee from your non-profit website all day long. How you use these profits is what counts.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:14:02 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Fuchsiii~~~
     @fuchsiii :blobcatgoogly: dafuq
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:14:45 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Fuchsiii~~~
     @fuchsiii lets build a non-profit casino :blobcatgoogly2:
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     Fuchsiii~~~ (fuchsiii@oxytodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:16:43 JST Fuchsiii~~~

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     @Jain that could be possible actually

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     Fuchsiii~~~ (fuchsiii@oxytodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:17:09 JST Fuchsiii~~~

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     @Jain https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gamer-girl-pee (im sill spending too much time on twitter…)

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:17:28 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Fuchsiii~~~
     @fuchsiii :comfysweat:
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:18:56 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Fuchsiii~~~
     @fuchsiii so ne scheisse :blobcatpain:
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     Fuchsiii~~~ (fuchsiii@oxytodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:19:02 JST Fuchsiii~~~

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     @Jain zu spaet~~

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 02:19:51 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Fuchsiii~~~
     @fuchsiii ich hoffe doch das da ein paar Menschen mit Hirn die Anträge bearbeiten...