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   maya_b (maya_b@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 04:44:55 JST maya_b

   • Thomas 🔭🕹️

   @thomasfuchs

   https://symbol.wtf/#

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     David O'Brien (iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 04:46:07 JST David O'Brien

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     Also, we don't get ads on the OS UI.

     Which is the stupidest fucking idea I've ever heard.

     @thomasfuchs

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     Molly White (molly0xfff@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 04:46:24 JST Molly White

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs macs only help so much — i was just on the wikipedia page for "Multiplication sign"

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     David O'Brien (iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:32:03 JST David O'Brien

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     • Carolyn
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     Yeah, but you either have to

     • change the keyboard language
     • Not ideal, since your actual keyboard doesn't change
     • memorise some pretty esoteric unicode strings; or
     • use a virtual keyboard

     Tbf, Macs don't handle all diacritics that well by default, but they do the most common pretty well.

     Like Option then E gets you é. Option U gets ü and so on.

     I guess that's a legacy of their prevalence in desktop publishing apps in the 90s.

     @CStamp @thomasfuchs

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     Carolyn (cstamp@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:32:04 JST Carolyn

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs Wait, PCs don't allow accents?

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     Carolyn (cstamp@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:33:46 JST Carolyn

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     • Sara Joy :happy_pepper:
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • David O'Brien

     @sarajw @iamdavidobrien @thomasfuchs Why is it harder? I think I'm missing something. Option + e = é on a Mac with US layout.

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     Carolyn (cstamp@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:33:53 JST Carolyn

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     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • David O'Brien

     @sarajw @iamdavidobrien @thomasfuchs For what? PC or Mac. For Mac, I'm a touch typer using US keyboard and it's nothing to add accents other than knowing which key commands trigger them.

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     Sara Joy :happy_pepper: (sarajw@front-end.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:33:53 JST Sara Joy :happy_pepper:

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     • Carolyn
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • David O'Brien

     @CStamp @iamdavidobrien @thomasfuchs same for me on PC, because it's just AltGr+E to get É. I hadn't realised it was so much harder with standard US layout.

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     Sara Joy :happy_pepper: (sarajw@front-end.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:33:58 JST Sara Joy :happy_pepper:

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     • Carolyn
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • David O'Brien

     @CStamp @iamdavidobrien @thomasfuchs they do fine if you're not using the US layout. I knew I had good reason to prefer British 😅

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     Carolyn (cstamp@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:33:59 JST Carolyn

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     • David O'Brien

     @iamdavidobrien @thomasfuchs Yeah, I use the French accents often enough to be surprised that PCs don't handle them as easily. Thanks, this is very interesting.

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     Gabriel Viso Carrera (gabriel@fedi.gvisoc.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:42:13 JST Gabriel Viso Carrera

     • Carolyn
     • Sara Joy :happy_pepper:
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • David O'Brien

     @thomasfuchs @CStamp @sarajw @iamdavidobrien You add the US international input method and use a [Win] shortcut to switch, same as on a Mac with Ctrl Space. The keystrokes are almost the same but I think I recall they follow the dead keys scheme —first accent then letter.

     I’ve been doing this for years as my first language is Spanish.

     Seriously, this claim is ridiculous.

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     Gabriel Viso Carrera (gabriel@fedi.gvisoc.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 05:51:54 JST Gabriel Viso Carrera

     • Carolyn
     • Sara Joy :happy_pepper:
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • David O'Brien

     @thomasfuchs @CStamp @sarajw @iamdavidobrien You do, you have to add the US international layout for it to work properly. Accents are just the tip of the iceberg. Characters like these ¡¿ç ñ require configuring shit to work, exactly the same.

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     David O'Brien (iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 06:43:24 JST David O'Brien

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     • Carolyn
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     To everyone whatabouting in this thread, I did say "they do the most common pretty well."

     And that would mean the most common in English-language publications using foreign language words or terms for whatever reason.

     Neither OS is perfect. Nor, I think, is it possible to be.

     But Mac OS does a better job than Windows, as things currently stand.

     I use both daily. This is my experience.

     @CStamp @thomasfuchs

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     Molly White (molly0xfff@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 06:44:51 JST Molly White

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     • Brian Reiter

     @breiter @thomasfuchs yeah, except it takes me about as long to open that and search for it as it does for me to type it into google 😅

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     Brian Reiter (breiter@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 06:44:52 JST Brian Reiter

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     • Molly White
     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @molly0xfff @thomasfuchs

     For future reference: “Globe key” or ctrl+cmd+space opens character viewer. Select Math Symbols and there it is.

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     Tim Magee (uriy@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 07:31:52 JST Tim Magee

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs Aye, for anything more complicated than an acute accent on a vowel (Ctrl+Alt) I just copy some foreign text into a scratchpad and compose my text with bits clipped from that, like it's a ransom note.

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     Matthias :veritrek_red: (mpwg@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 25-Apr-2024 14:13:41 JST Matthias :veritrek_red:

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs On my Mac I have to google „upper 2“ to get this: ².