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    Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:19:02 JST Elias Mårtenson Elias Mårtenson

    Oh my lord. Gruber is really doubling down on his defence of Facebook using the argument of "how dare you tell me I have to stop robbing banks? How else can I preserve these profits?". Along with a sprinkle of not understanding that the DMS only applies to large dominant companies.

    Did anyone write a good rebuttal to this yet? I need something to clean the bad taste from my mouth.

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      Ian Betteridge (ianbetteridge@writing.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:18:55 JST Ian Betteridge Ian Betteridge
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      @tfb @loke Lord help me, I ended up writing something.

      https://ianbetteridge.com/2024/04/19/what-a-difference-four-years-makes/

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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        What a difference four years makes
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        John Gruber in 2020 on the tracking industry led by Facebook: The entitlement of these fuckers is just off the charts. They have zero right, none, to the tracking they’ve been getting away with. We…
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      Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:18:56 JST Thomas Thomas
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      • Ian Betteridge

      @loke @ianbetteridge The idea that data protection is something people should have a right to have, for free, is certainly at odds with his belief that Apple is selling a right to privacy with their products (and that this is a good thing)

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      Anil Dash repeated this.
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      Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:18:57 JST Elias Mårtenson Elias Mårtenson
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      • Ian Betteridge

      @tfb @ianbetteridge reading this post, https://social.bund.de/@DS_Stiftung/112291597780354201

      I note the following quote:

      take care at all times to avoid transforming the fundamental right to data protection into a feature that individuals have to pay to enjoy

      This fact is probably completely foreign to anperson raised in a place where you can't even get the healthcare you need without paying to enjoy it

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        Stiftung Datenschutz (@DS_Stiftung@social.bund.de)
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        Stellungnahme des 🇪🇺 #Datenschutz-Ausschusses zum #PayOrOK-Modell: https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2024/edpb-consent-or-pay-models-should-offer-real-choice_en #EDSA-Vorsitzende Anu Talus: > "Controllers should take care at all times to avoid transforming the fundamental right to data protection into a feature that individuals have to pay to enjoy. Individuals should be made fully aware of the value and the consequences of their choices." 👉 Der #EDSA wird sich mit Interessengruppen über künftige Leitlinien austauschen. #ConsentOrPay #EDPB #DSGVO #Datenschutz
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      Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:19:00 JST Elias Mårtenson Elias Mårtenson
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      • Ian Betteridge

      @tfb I'm not sure I need to attribute his actions to him running the errands of the government. Regardless of reasons, it's clear that he's set out on a crusade against big bad EU. This is exactly in line with the unusually frank statements from Apple.

      I think he's supporting Facebook here based on the My enemy's enemy is my friend idea.

      He really needs to emphasise how the EU is being bad, to the point of completely ignoring facts that he is clearly aware of (because it was pointed out by that fantastic article by @ianbetteridge ) just because it helps the fiction that the EU is doing this to support European businesses.

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      Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:19:01 JST Thomas Thomas
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      @loke Completely unsurprising, honestly. Since it became clear that Facebook/Meta are a key bit of the US military spy apparatus, he's gotten behind their "targeting". He's a pretty hardcore militarist right-wing Democratic Party shill, after all.

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      jimray (jimray@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:19:53 JST jimray jimray
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      • Anil Dash
      • Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦
      • Ian Betteridge

      @tantramar @ianbetteridge @tfb @loke I’m not a regular Talk Show listener but did listen to an episode with @anildash a while back and I could see glimmers of the old Daring Fireball.

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      Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:19:53 JST Anil Dash Anil Dash
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      • Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦
      • jimray
      • Ian Betteridge

      @jimray @tantramar @ianbetteridge @tfb @loke yeah I think John is at least still willing to engage honestly with people who favor regulation, but certainly that cohort is surrounded by VC-style extremism around demonizing laws.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦 (tantramar@nojack.easydns.ca)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:19:59 JST Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦 Christopher Mackay 🇨🇦
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      • jimray
      • Ian Betteridge

      @ianbetteridge @jimray @tfb @loke I’m tempted to wonder if it’s just that they’re getting older, but I know they’re younger than I am.

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      Ian Betteridge (ianbetteridge@writing.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:20:00 JST Ian Betteridge Ian Betteridge
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      • jimray

      @jimray @tfb @loke Yeah, I noticed that too - it is weird.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink
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      jimray (jimray@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 09:20:01 JST jimray jimray
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      • Ian Betteridge

      @ianbetteridge @tfb @loke Sharp post and in the comments you get at something that has genuinely made me sad: the correlation between the reactionary shift and the upstart of Dithering. I like John and Ben personally, their rightward drift over the past four years though just bums me out.

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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