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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 06:41:10 JST feld
   nobody made this big of a deal when it was Toyota. Or how about the Audi 5000
   
   RT: https://fediscience.org/users/petergleick/statuses/112298382651465020
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 06:41:09 JST Sick Sun

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     @feld fediscience user
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 06:45:40 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff @feld I mean though: is there a named fallacy for presenting a number like it's meaningful and ignoring other events with similar numbers? I guess just "dishonesty"
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 06:45:41 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @sun @feld really though: a recall of 3800 isn't so bad
     
     some of the bigger recalls were orders of magnitude more than that
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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 06:46:09 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @feld I mean, luxury cars aren't known to sell in huge numbers. :blobfoxthonking:
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 07:00:22 JST Sick Sun

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     @feld @jeffcliff what's the deal with the car washes disabling it though?
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 07:00:23 JST feld

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @sun @jeffcliff it’s 100% the "fuck cars" crowd just auto-fellating over every negative car-related thing they can find, with bonus money shots if it somehow involves Elon 🤷
     
     The Cybertruck isn’t even that big. I was disappointed when I saw it.
     
     Cybertruck:
     Width: 70.5"
     Length: 223.7"
     
     F150 Long Bed:
     Width: 79.9" without mirrors, 95.7" with mirrors
     Length: 227.7"
     
     F250 Crew Cab Long Bed:
     Width: 105.9" with standard mirrors, 80" without
     Length: 266.2"
     
     It’s just not a big truck. If you’ve lived in communities with trucks the Cybertruck is a joke.
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 07:06:38 JST Sick Sun

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     @feld @jeffcliff It's really bad but at the same time I suspect it's really hard to make a new automobile from scratch.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 07:06:39 JST feld

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @sun @jeffcliff I can only guess that high pressure of water is getting somewhere it shouldn't. This is a massive engineering fail
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 07:48:45 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @feld @sun
     
     > It’s just not a big truck.
     
     ITS A SERIES OF TUBES
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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 07:49:11 JST Sick Sun

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     @hyolo @feld @jeffcliff maybe, not sure if it's on purpose or not
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 07:49:13 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @sun @feld i doubt it but maybe
     
     "intentionally focusing on the wrong thing"?
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     hyolo@den.raccoon.quest's status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 07:49:13 JST hyolo

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

     @jeffcliff@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world @feld@bikeshed.party selection bias?

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     Sick Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 08:22:38 JST Sick Sun

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @feld @iceloops @jeffcliff is there indication that fusion is viable? it seems like along time has been spent for modest gains
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 08:22:39 JST feld

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @iceloops @jeffcliff @sun If we really want this we need a HUGE war-level effort of resources to make small fusion reactors a reality and economical. Make us truly energy independent. It doesn't matter if the rest of the world has all the oil if we have nearly-free energy to do anything we want with.
     
     Maybe there will be a "war on oil" political movement like this. Time will tell
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     iceloops (iceloops@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 08:22:40 JST iceloops

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @feld @jeffcliff @sun yeah building a solar farm to make hydrogen is dumb sure it's renewable but also expensive
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 08:22:41 JST feld

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff @iceloops @sun There's no real way to make hydrogen cheap. We don't do anything at scale where it's a byproduct we could capture.
     
     Desalination *maybe* in the future but that's still hampered by the cost of energy to do the desalination in the first place.
     
     Storing energy in batteries will always be cheaper than using energy to make hydrogen, then back to less energy than you started with. People don't get this. They'll say "oh we can do all this solar to run the hydrogen operation" -- ok great but you make more money by putting the solar into batteries.
     
     AIUI You don't want to make hydrogen from saltwater either, and we have concerns about our long term access to fresh water...
     
     I have a bunch of links of hydrogen operations that exist, their issues, nobody buying it except for small tests, hydrogen trains in Europe canceling (Germany I think?), etc
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     iceloops (iceloops@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 08:22:42 JST iceloops

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @sun @feld @jeffcliff I remember talks of hydrogen cars I wonder what happened to that
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 20-Apr-2024 08:22:42 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @iceloops @sun @feld we had hydrogen busses in #yxe when i was in highschool
     
     i think they were marginally more expensive than gas ones so eventually got replaced