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   Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 06:27:51 JST Sir Nedwood

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   @fu @Aslanmane @royal the land is occupied. And improved, by me! And what's with this "power of the state" nonsense? You just seem to be full of hate and expressing it in nonsensical delusions.

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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 00:20:28 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @royal @Aslanmane @fu the fact that land can be owned does not make ownership of said land exploitative. The land should be put to good use in the way that benefits people the most. And sometimes that means rent. Because having somewhere to stay is better than being homeless.

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     royal (royal@theres.life)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 00:20:29 JST royal

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     @Aslanmane and @ned , I can't speak for @fu , but I want to recognize while there is plenty of reason to resent exploitative landlords, I trust that is not the situation with you and yours. Landlords can be fair to their tenants, even partners with them; they can take care of and improve their properties and make things better for their communities, not worse. May charity prevail.

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     royal (royal@theres.life)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 01:30:08 JST royal

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     @fu @Aslanmane @ned Please go find those people and have a word with them. Nobody here is arguing with you about the idea that there are bad landlords. I think we all agree.

     We should also all agree that charity is necessary. If you don't, well. Your words may profit nothing.

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     Richard (aslanmane@theres.life)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 08:28:10 JST Richard

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     @fu @royal @ned
     Landlord's who rent out there properties are by definition occupying there land.
     Note: I'm still waiting for an apology for inciting my mother should be murdered.

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 09:52:19 JST silverwizard

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     @Aslanmane @fu @royal @ned Your mom should be murdered

     I really hope it's only because she's a landlord

     You should only be shamed for licking boots AFAIK

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 16:24:19 JST fu

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     @Aslanmane @royal @ned no they aren't. By definition the tennants are the ones occupying the land. Such tenants are the rightful owners.
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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 06:20:57 JST fu

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     @jordonr @royal @ned @Aslanmane biblically Christians share all resources with their community. Pretty much the opposite of land lords.
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     Jordon (jordonr@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 06:20:58 JST Jordon

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     @fu @Aslanmane @royal @ned can you point to this assertion Biblically? I can’t find anywhere that occupation equals ownership. God specifically had the Israelites remove people by force who occupied the promise land while Israel was enslaved in Egypt. In part it was God using Israel to punish those nations for idolatry.

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 06:27:50 JST fu

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     @ned the power of the State here includes, but is not limited to, the Register of Deeds claiming you own it, police officers violently removing residents for not giving you money, etc.
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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 06:27:54 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @fu @Aslanmane @jordonr @royal do you own your house? If I turned up on your doorstep would you share it with me?

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 11-Apr-2024 06:27:54 JST fu

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     do you own your house?

     
     Yes.
     

     If I turned up on your doorstep would you share it with me?

     
     certainly, we have never turned away anyone who has requested such.

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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 07:40:23 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @fu also just noticed your definition of capitalism seems very different to mine. I see it as simply the free exchange of goods as services via a market mechanism. Ironically any other system would require additional government enforcement to manage what goods and services people are allowed to trade or what price they will pay.

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 07:40:23 JST fu

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     @ned it sounds like you are referring to a freed market, rather than the common usage of capitalism of rule by those with large amounts of capital.

     Anarchism has always been an anti-capitalist position, and usually anti-market as well.

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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 07:40:24 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @fu is this an ancap argument? Shall I remove people from my property with my own force? What about others that wish to remove me from my property?

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 07:40:24 JST fu

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     @ned ther is no such thing as an ancap. Capitalism requires government to exist.
     

     Shall I remove people from my property with my own force?

     
     Usually that isn't necessary and just being polite will be sufficient but in extreme cases yes you or others who voluntarily due so, would be legitimate self-defense,
     

     What about others that wish to remove me from my property?

     
     Again you have a right to self-defense.

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 07:40:27 JST fu

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     @ned one day the revolution will come and they will get what they deserve.
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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Friday, 12-Apr-2024 07:40:28 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @fu Well thankfully asking tenants politely to pay rent has worked well so far. They are even grateful to do so.

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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 00:41:07 JST fu

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     @ned You might want to start with the Wikipedia article on anarchism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchis… personally I'm a Libertarian socialist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertar…
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     Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 13-Apr-2024 00:41:08 JST Sir Nedwood

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     @fu What you are describing is Plutocracy. Which I am no fan of and agree with you. Rule by the merchant class results in degeneracy and corruption, of which we know no bounds these days.

     But to say anarchism is "anti-market" seems completely antithetical and makes no sense. But the again I'm not an anarchist so what do I know.