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   Jay (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 03:25:41 JST Jay

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   The messaging on Mastodon needs to be a lot clearer.

   “You cannot view this profile because your Mastodon server, example dot com, has suspended the example dot net domain.”

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     Jay (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 03:25:44 JST Jay

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     And people say Mastodon isn’t confusing 🙄

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     Jay (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 03:25:47 JST Jay

     If you search Mastodon for “threads.net” you’ll see a bunch of people wondering why they can’t see President Biden’s account, unaware that they are on an instance that did a full suspend on the threads.net domain.

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     Annika Backstrom (annika@xoxo.zone)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 06:04:44 JST Annika Backstrom

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     @jsit who said that? i'd like to block their server

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     Jay (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 06:04:45 JST Jay

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     “But everyone said it didn’t matter which instance I joined.”

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 07:05:43 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @jsit What happened with social.coop? I thought y'all decided to block threads.net.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 09:30:08 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @jsit that sounds like a good compromise.

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     Jay (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 04-Apr-2024 09:30:09 JST Jay

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan Just a limit, not a suspend.

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     Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:27:41 JST Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣

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     • Samf

     @samf

     “I wish Mastodon would stop building apps and focus purely on the protocol.”

     Mastodon is a software. They don't work for the ActivityPub protocol.

     The ActivityPub protocol is handled by the W3C. There is a W3C Working Group for ActivityPub, which interested developers can join and have a discussion, regardless if they are the developers of the Mastodon software, Hubzilla software, Pleroma, Misskey, etc.

     So, yes and no. Yes, the Mastodon team is focusing on building apps because that's what they do. And, no, they cannot focus on developing the ActivityPub protocol because that is not under them.

     Just clarifying so it's clearer. ^_^

     @jsit

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     Samf (samf@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:27:43 JST Samf

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     @jsit I’m sympathetic to open-source development (xz shined a light on that plight, if nothing else), but honestly my goodwill is wearing thin.

     I wish Mastodon would stop building apps and focus purely on the protocol. As of their 2022 report, HALF their team was focused on app development. At least when Twitter invested in apps, it was for a business reason. (Ads.)

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     Samf (samf@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:27:44 JST Samf

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     @jsit Mastodon has had literal years to iron out these incredibly awkward UX rough edges. And there are a lot of them. It’s very frustrating.

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     Arataka (arataka@esper.lol)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:35:41 JST Arataka

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     @jsit That would be a great addition actually, especially with some of the bigger instances suspending for rather dumb issues. Would give users of said instance a lot more clarity.

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     Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣 (youronlyone@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:38:48 JST Yohan Yukiya Sese Cuneta 사요한🦣

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     • vruz
     • Kadsepfösch

     @Glatorius

     “That is a Masto/Fediverse problem.”

     It's not a “Fediverse” problem because the Fediverse is only a network, a friendly name to the ActivityPub protocol, just as people use “BlueSky network” as a friendly name to the “ATproto” protocol.

     It is a __software__ problem. ^_~

     @vruz

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     Kadsepfösch (glatorius@troet.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:38:49 JST Kadsepfösch

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     • vruz

     @vruz Have you read the posts at all? It's not about Threads.net or closed systems.

     It's about in this case really bad UI. If you search for an existing account on a for-you-blocked instance, it should not say:

     "This account doesn't exist" (which is just wrong)

     but:

     "Could not find this account. It belongs to an instance which your instance has blocked. The reason given is: XYZ" (True and helpful)

     That is a Masto/Fediverse problem.

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     vruz (vruz@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:38:50 JST vruz

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     @jsit@social.coop Mastodon isn't inherently confusing. The president shouldn't rely on Threads for anything, which isn't Masto-related at all. And Masto is not the fediverse, and it bears no relation with Threads, except the little help that Mastodon GmbH gave to Meta for them to get started.

     These are things only confusing when people make terrible decisions, like the Biden admin did placing an official account on a proprietary system, and when people conflate unrelated concepts, like you've just done.

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     Jay (jsit@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:40:23 JST Jay

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     • WagesOf

     @WagesOf I support instance admins' freedom to limit/suspend Threads if they want. But I also support users' ability to know that this is happening, and to move instances if they disagree with the decision.

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     WagesOf (wagesof@gamepad.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:40:24 JST WagesOf

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     @jsit and the embrace extend extinguish becomes inevitable because one press release bot is on threads and there's no way for any large instance to have the freedom to decide that a massive, corporate run, algorithm infested and almost completely unmoderated threat to the entire network is unwanted.

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     Nicolas Cropp (nicolas@social.lol)'s status on Saturday, 06-Apr-2024 04:41:54 JST Nicolas Cropp

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     • Adam :prami:

     @jsit @adam admins who signed fedipact when they find out their users actually wanted to federate with threads: