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   Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 01:58:21 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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   I used to do a blog focused on illegal immigration and this is one of the foundational lies the communists use to keep the border open and illegal aliens streaming in. Back in the 70's meat packing plants paid Americans excellent wages and meat was not expensive but they got greedy and took a number of steps to push Americans out of those jobs replacing them with disposable aliens they could pay for shit and the savings were definitely NOT passed along to the customers. How could you have a nation if you had to keep importing people you could pay poorly?
   
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 01:58:17 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @mjdigspigs @sickburnbro I grew up in Chicago area kitchens and even back in the 80's it wasn't weird for me to be the only English speaking American working there.
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     mjdigspigs (mjdigspigs@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 01:58:21 JST mjdigspigs

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     @Escoffier @sickburnbro I was in much need of a job about 20 years ago and there was a candle factory in town. Work was mundane, smell was overwhelming. They were doing cucumber melon. Lasted less than a week. Would have kept it if anyone there spoke English. How are you supposed to do such mundane work for such little wages when you can't even shoot the shit with your fellow slave??
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:00:14 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @Escoffier @mjdigspigs yeah, hard or mundane jobs are a lot less bad if you have comradery
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     CrustyB (crustyb@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:43:19 JST CrustyB

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     The economy would adjust itself. If we didn't have mass migration we wouldn't have to pay punitive taxes to underwrite welfare for foreigners, then we could afford more expensive meat.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:43:19 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @CrustyB @sickburnbro “One thing we learned in the 1990s was that a surefire way to reconnect the fortunes of working people at all skill levels, immigrant and native-born alike, to the growing economy is to let the job market tighten up. A tight job market pressures employers to boost wage offers to get and keep the workers they need. One equally surefire way to sort-circuit this useful dynamic is to turn on the immigrant spigot every time some group’s wages go up.”
     
     Jared Bernstein
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     Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:44:05 JST Special Guest Star

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     he's bragging
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:44:05 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @s2208 @Escoffier @CrustyB no, I don't think so - he's calling it a useful dynamic.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:45:31 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @s2208 @CrustyB @sickburnbro When people ask my political affiliation I always respond Huey Long Populist.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:45:41 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @Escoffier @s2208 @CrustyB also long time no see, Escoffier
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:46:25 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @CrustyB @Escoffier and we could afford healthcare too
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:48:11 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @s2208 @CrustyB @Escoffier I mean obviously "Jared Bernstein" sounds extremely jewish, so he probably is - but what I'm saying is I don't think he's bragging. I think he is saying he does think having workers get paid appropriately is useful. His reasoning for WHY it is good is probably different.
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     Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 02:48:12 JST Special Guest Star

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     ethnicity check
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     lord_nougat (lord_nougat@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 03:11:27 JST lord_nougat

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     @Escoffier @s2208 @CrustyB @sickburnbro His later stuff was a bit too new wave for my tastes.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 03:36:21 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @Hoss @Escoffier or just better to say " 'our'?, you mean 'your' "
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 03:36:22 JST Hoss Delgado

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     >it's what our system is built upon.
     Bold of you to assume I have any interest at all in preserving the existence of the current system. I'm ready to roll the dice on pretty much anything that stands a chance of replacing it these days.
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     PopulistRight (populistright@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 22:34:48 JST PopulistRight

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     @drake_koefoed @sickburnbro @CrustyB @Escoffier Why have only one? The not-for-profit system we had before provided a form of choice/competition.
     
     Take hospitals - the senior-docs who were the board-of-dirs at a non-profit hospital wanted the best tools for their practice, and happy customers, so kept the place nice and modern.
     
     Health insurance was more like a credit-union - simply operated in the interest of its members.
     
     The cost of filling in the uninsured-gap, in that system, would have been a tiny-fraction of today's govt-subsidies - because a massive-portion of the money spent on "health care" goes into Wall St's pockets, instead of providing care/services. Then, enter Black-Rock, enforcing DEI, to further wreck quality via reverse-meritocracy.
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 22:34:48 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @PopulistRight @drake_koefoed @sickburnbro @CrustyB I ran the congressional campaign for the head of the Chicago Minutemen when she ran for Rahm Emmanuel's seat when he followed Obama to Washington.
     
     Part of my duties was researching her position papers. An interesting realization i had was that insurance for Healthcare breaks the 'Crazy Eddy' rule.
     
     You know how there used ti be those commercials for the type of place that would be called 'Crazy Eddy?' who had super low prices because he...
     
     Eliminated the middle man?
     
     Health insurance is just purposefully inserting a middle man into the process with all the usual outcomes. Higher prices mostly.
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     drake_koefoed (drake_koefoed@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 22:34:50 JST drake_koefoed

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     @PopulistRight @sickburnbro @CrustyB @Escoffier what we really need is one non profit healthcare company that covers everyone.
     
     obama, of course, was the bank president, hence the bailout for the banks for their own greed and stupidity.
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     PopulistRight (populistright@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 22:34:51 JST PopulistRight

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     @sickburnbro @CrustyB @Escoffier Healthcare was also less expensive, because the insurance orgs were regulated to be not-for-profits, and most hospitals were not-for-profits, run by the senior-docs who practiced there.
     
     Obamacare was the "solution" in the "problem reaction solution" chain of events, which was started by 'de-regulation', which made costs skyrocket. In fact, Obamacare-type legislation, including the "individual mandate," was first proposed by Senate Republicans - written by the Heritage Foundation. They needed "left-cover" to pass it, hence Obama's role.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 22:40:41 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @Escoffier @drake_koefoed @PopulistRight @CrustyB the problem with heathcare is that it is an truly unbounded problem - we have so many illnesses that we don't have a simple "take 14 days of this medicine and it will clear up"
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 22:40:42 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @drake_koefoed @PopulistRight @sickburnbro @CrustyB The problem is it will either be run by private industry or government and I'm hard pressed to say which would be worse.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 22:52:07 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @CrustyB @Escoffier @PopulistRight @drake_koefoed well, it used to be that if you had something bad happen you could get help from your community.
     
     That has been destroyed and will take decades to repair.
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     CrustyB (crustyb@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 29-Mar-2024 22:52:08 JST CrustyB

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     We need to get back to a basic truth which is that your health problems are your problems, they're your debt, and not someone else's. It's not your "right" to have someone else pay for your health care. You either need your savings, your insurance or other people's charity, not the theft & slavery of Marxist Socialism.
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     drake_koefoed (drake_koefoed@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 31-Mar-2024 01:24:28 JST drake_koefoed

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     @PopulistRight @sickburnbro @CrustyB @Escoffier i'm not sure how well the older system worked. better than today for sure. health care cost has gone up, the service has declined.
     
     no doubt wall street is the problem. the more competition, the more cost associated with that. so if the people in charge just want money, they do whatever it takes to win, no matter how evil.
     
     we also had a lot more general prosperity. like carpenters used to be able to buy a house. sub dividers used the crews for their first market. when the sites got too far away you could sell and move.
     
     my dad, on one income, bought a house in redwood city ca in the 60s. he was a traveling salesman for an aluminum extrusion company. years later with us long gone, that house sold for $3M. nobody was buying it with any one income where you worked for what you got. the financialization of the economy, diverting the wealth to the non working wall street parasites
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     PopulistRight (populistright@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 31-Mar-2024 01:24:28 JST PopulistRight

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     @drake_koefoed @sickburnbro @CrustyB @Escoffier Competition does not increase costs, other than advertising-costs borne by all players. That is one reason why Big-Pharma could not advertise prescription drugs to the general-public, before the 80s. However, there was corruption in the medical-journals at that time (still is, today).
     
     Yes - the other major problem with folks covering their own medical costs/insurance, is that MOST Americans live hand-to-mouth - cannot find $400 cash in an emergency.
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     drake_koefoed (drake_koefoed@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 22:04:21 JST drake_koefoed

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     @PopulistRight @Escoffier @sickburnbro @CrustyB "The ONLY reason a corporation is needed, is to raise RISK CAPITAL. Medical has a guaranteed-market, due to the human condition, so this is a STUPID system to use for that function. "
     
     there is nothing that can raise capital like a sovereign currency issuer. and it can even invest 10 in something that turns out to be worth 9, and just go right on. you needed a new hospital, you built it.
     
     since essentially everything is a need in one way or another, the things that are natural monopolies should be run by people who just get a reasonable salary, and anything that pays pays the people.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 22:04:21 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @drake_koefoed @PopulistRight @Escoffier @CrustyB so improving care isn't a worthy goal?
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     drake_koefoed (drake_koefoed@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 22:04:22 JST drake_koefoed

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     @Escoffier @PopulistRight @sickburnbro @CrustyB that's why it cannot be private.
     
     "Health insurance is just purposefully inserting a middle man into the process with all the usual outcomes. Higher prices mostly."
     
     a public funding system is not a middle man. it's just us, building up a kitty big enough to take care of us.
     
     insurers spend a lot of money denying coverage. a system of and for us would not deny coverage, and that's often cheaper than denying it, so there is a lot to save
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     PopulistRight (populistright@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 22:04:22 JST PopulistRight

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     @drake_koefoed @Escoffier @sickburnbro @CrustyB In the Good Old Days - Not-For-profit insurers did not try to block paying out legit-claims, because their charters made "the insured" their primary interest. Contrast to "the shareholder's profits" being the primary interest of "for-profit health insurance," now. This is why docs did not need an army of staff to get paid, back then.
     
     The ONLY reason a corporation is needed, is to raise RISK CAPITAL. Medical has a guaranteed-market, due to the human condition, so this is a STUPID system to use for that function.
     
     For stuff like smart-phones, a for-profit system is well suited - though, even in this case, "planned obsolescence" must be criminalized. I could do a long-tangent here on lightbulbs and computer chips (Intel AND Apple) ... see the film "The Lightbulb Conspiracy" for a brief primer on that subject:
     youtube.com/watch?v=BWJC5ieUAe4
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     Escoffier Gab refugee (escoffier@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 22:34:01 JST Escoffier Gab refugee

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     @sickburnbro @drake_koefoed @PopulistRight @CrustyB It definitely is but I think like our government you'd have to burn the current system to the ground first.
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     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 01-Apr-2024 22:35:26 JST Bread up, Bro

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     @Escoffier @drake_koefoed @PopulistRight @CrustyB Indeed, I think so as well. The problem is that the incentives are very misaligned.
     
     I think the biggest example of a misalignment is that with investments into healthcare, something that merely treats an issue rather than curing it is going to be worth a lot more money without a societal investment.
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     PopulistRight (populistright@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 00:40:19 JST PopulistRight

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     @drake_koefoed @Escoffier @sickburnbro @CrustyB I want doctors to be relatively wealthy - like they were, when we had the best health-care in the world. I want the best and brightest to become docs vs some other high-paying profession. It wasn't doc's salaries which created this problem.
     
     We were not short on hospitals in those days, because the non-profit hospital org could easily get a bank-loan at very low interest to expand, if the need / business was unfilled in an area. There was very low-risk to the bank, of the loan going unpaid - because old people are going to need periodic "repair" - and a smaller % of younger folks.
     
     Where a govt-financed system may be needed, is in primary-residence home-loans, as RFK-Jr has proposed. But, this cannot be based on Fed-Reserve money, to be paid back at a higher interest rate than the low-interest loan, thus becoming a tax-funded subsidy / ponzi-scheme.
     
     I do not say this in aversion to going after the elite who used corrupt-practices to 'de-home-own' millions of Americans. I would fully-support a law to force Blackstone/Blackrock to sell their residential real-estate holdings back to those the banks foreclosed-upon post-2008-crash - and at the bargain-price the banks sold those homes to THEM (blackstone), but refused to offer the former-homeowners on a re-finance.
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     PopulistRight (populistright@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2024 01:33:47 JST PopulistRight

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     @sickburnbro @Escoffier @drake_koefoed @CrustyB Good was formerly done by the NIH and at universities - the unis then being state-subsidized vs corporate-funded. We would need to rewind parts of this back to the 70s, and other parts to pre "Rockefeller Medicine" days - dig out all the rot.
     
     corbettreport.com/episode-286-rockefeller-medicine/
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     @PopulistRight @Escoffier @drake_koefoed @CrustyB indeed, I think there were a lot of useful ways to do things before, but I also think we've gotten most of the easy wins out of modern medicine.