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   clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 16:16:09 JST clacke

   In Sweden, higher education is split into "school of higher education" ("högskola") and "university" ("universitet").

   To become a university, a school of higher education must perform a certain amount of research rather than just teaching, and depending on the subject, a school of higher education might only be allowed to award bachelor's degrees, whereas a university can award master's degrees and doctorates.

   In English communications, most of these institutions call themselves a "university", regardless of whether they are an "universitet" in the Swedish system.

   Is there any distinction like this in the UK or US systems? Is there a shorthand for expressing something similar to this distinction in English?

   I know the US has some community colleges that don't call themselves universities, but I don't know if that's anything more than an informal prestige thing or if there is an actual difference in services? And then there are a bunch of places that call themselves "university" but don't seem very serious at all, so I guess it's not a protected title?

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 16:16:08 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     @clacke Traditionally in the US, a community college would offer basic professional training and a two-year degree called an associate's degree. This would count towards a bachelor's later if the student transferred. There are also "junior colleges" which used to be like community colleges but have trended towards more comprehensive educational offerings. Colleges, informally, offer bachelor's degrees and maybe a few postgraduate programs. Universities tend to offer more programs.

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     LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 17:08:42 JST LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     I can't say for sure what the difference is, because in the US most four-year colleges tend to perform research as well as teach and most universities seem to focus more on research than teaching. I do remember when when the California State College system became the California State University, they had to do lots of work ... including having a certain number of PhD faculty.
     
     I do know that one company brought in interns from both my CSU campus and its nearby UC (University of California) campus. Originally, the UC student interns were placed in supervisory positions ... the thought being they knew more about business and marketing than the CSU students. After a semester, the roles were switched because the UC students were more focused on research than on practice.
     
     (It was a matter for bragging rights that the business school on our CSU campus was AACSB accredited before the business school on the nearby UC campus, back when it was capped at the top 15% of business schools in the country.)
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     LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 17:16:17 JST LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @clacke When I first saw "högskola" I thought "hog school" ... false cognates. :-)
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:33:58 JST clacke

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     @lnxw48a1 Hehe, "high" is the true cognate to "hög".

     American "high school", secondary school, years 10–12, is "gymnasium" in Swedish, for weird reasons I haven't looked into for a while and forgot. So that's why the term "high school" is still available for tertiary education.

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     LeonianUniverse (leonianuniverse@bkcastle.net)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:35:09 JST LeonianUniverse

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     @clacke yeah, a university is where you go to get your Bachelor's degree, but some have programs where you filter in from that University in to a separate school to get your Masters degree. Like for example, You have George Mason University where you go to get your Bachelor's degree, but if for example, you want to get a JD which is essentially a law degree, you would get filtered in to the George Mason owned Law School which is called something entirely different. It really depends on the University. Some universities aren't big enough to offer such on there own, so they might create partnerships with sister schools to filter people in to after they've gotten there Bachelor's degrees. Community college is meant mainly for people to work on either finishing there Bachelor's degree if for example, they left school and want to finish getting there credits at a community college like what I'm doing, or, for people starting out in Community College, they would work on getting there Associates degree which takes 2 years and is the mid-way point to getting your Bachelor's degree, but they'd get filtered in to a public University to continue there education after getting thereAssociates degree to ultimately get a Bachelor's degree and then maybe move on to getting a Masters degree. George mason University in particular is incredibly huge and has a variety of different Master's degree programs for people who have there Bachelors degree, not just law, I just know about the law program because for a while I was headed toward that point.

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     Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:35:13 JST Mans R

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     @clacke And then there's "teknisk högskola" which is a type of "universitet" despite the name. Obviously, these are the best ones.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:35:13 JST clacke

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     @mansr Well, they may or may not be an universitet, but perhaps at this point they all are.
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     Mans R (mansr@society.oftrolls.com)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2024 22:35:51 JST Mans R

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     @clacke I haven't kept up with all the new ones that sprung up. Then again, the only one that really matters is the royal one.

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