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   John Siracusa (siracusa@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:52 JST John Siracusa

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   @TechConnectify @Drwave I’ve only used a few induction stovetops, so I don’t know if this is an issue with all of them, but I really disliked the vibration/buzz of the electronics that I could both hear and (seemingly?) feel through the pans.

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     Michael B. Johnson (drwave@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:53 JST Michael B. Johnson

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     IME, induction (unless you have some attachment to cookware that doesn't work with it) is hands down the best solution out there.

     Heats faster, cleans easier, etc. over gas (which is what I have). I know this because a friend has a house we've stayed at for years and they have it, and I am very jealous. If I did it again, would go with it.

     Did you pick basic electric over induction because it was cheaper or some other reason?

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:53 JST Technology Connections

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     @Drwave Assuming your last question is to me, it's a combination of stuff:

     Big factor is that a double-oven range is more important to me than having an induction cooktop. There are very few options with both and they're all stupid money.

     I'm also not super convinced of the long-term reliability and repairability of those kinds of electronics, though I'm not sure how concerned I need to be there.

     Bottom line, though, I don't find glass-ceramic limiting or difficult.

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     Christian Selig (christianselig@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:54 JST Christian Selig

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     @caseyliss @TechConnectify Would love to know why! Induction knocked my socks off. So fast, so easy to clean

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:55 JST Technology Connections

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     Now, will I make a main channel video about the stove situation? Not sure. It will invite a lot of stupid comments, for sure.

     But I can repeat the same experiments I did with the first stove rodeo, do it a little better, and it will (probably) be a swap to the SAME MODEL but electric rather than gas.

     I'll definitely do more water-boiling timing, oven pre-heat time (I already know the electric will crush it) etc. at least for Connextras.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:55 JST Technology Connections

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     I used the word hoodwinked earlier - perhaps gaslit would have been better!

     But that's really what it feels like. How did I ever think I like the smelly, fumy, hot-AF cooking experience more? Why did I think electric stoves were so slow? How did these thoughts get in my head, and stay so pervasive?

     And that's the end of the thread. You do you, I'm sure some folks out there still want gas stoves. I won't judge you - but my mind has been changed, and HARD.

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     Casey Liss (caseyliss@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:55 JST Casey Liss

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     @TechConnectify I’ve been a gas stove disciple for years — including doing a conversion from ⚡️ → 🔥 in our home — and now you have me doubting everything. 🫨

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:56 JST Technology Connections

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     And to make this anecdote EVEN MORE FUN - I reached out to a neighbor offering them my old stove. They, too, want to switch to electric!

     They had an electric stove in the previous home, now have gas, and don't like it as well!

     I almost feel hoodwinked. So many of the things I thought were "better" about gas just... aren't.

     OK, you can light it with a match when the power's out. Great.

     But they make the kitchen hot as hell, are painful to use, and aren't even fast. WTF.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:56 JST Technology Connections

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     And to those Wok people - I bought an induction wok for $199 just the other day. Round-bottom wok and everything. I have virtually no cooking experience with a wok but would like to try it - and I'll probably be making a video about it, just as a PSA if nothing else.

     Woks come up again and again as a sticking point in the gas stove discussion. There are multiple solutions out there.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:57 JST Technology Connections

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     So, since I'll be spending less time at Place 2, I've made the decision - I'm ditching the stove at home.

     I've made arrangements to have a range circuit installed, and I'll (eventually) be getting the electric version of the same KitchenAid stove (which is nearly functionally identical to the Whirlpool). I'm a sucker for those knurled handles with the red, what can I say?

     And guess what? I'm not even going to go with induction. I like glass-top ceramic just fine.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:58 JST Technology Connections

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     My folks were over for Christmas and we had some potatoes O'Brien for breakfast - just a frozen mix you do up in a frying pan.

     It was taking AGES. I could have sped it up moving over to the mega burner, but that would have made the searing heat coming around the sides of the pan even worse! It was damn-near painful to stir that stuff around with a wooden spoon, and it took like 20 minutes to fry up nicely.

     They're not fast, folks! They just react quickly. That's it.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:59 JST Technology Connections

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     I had the KitchenAid gas stove first - I was able to pick out my appliances in my new home, regrettably everything was gas but at that point in time I legitimately still thought I preferred cooking with gas so I just went with it.

     Lived with that stove for about a year and, aside from the back burners being utterly useless for anything other than simmering, thought I liked it.

     Then, about a year later, I installed a range circuit at Place 2 to ditch its gas stove for air quality concerns.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:03:59 JST Technology Connections

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     That's the Whirlpool, and it marked the first time I was using an electric stove day-to-day since my childhood.

     And ever since then, I've hated the KitchenAid stove at home more and more. It takes the oven much longer to preheat. It makes the kitchen hot as hell in the summer, and smelly whenever I use it - unless I have the vent fan blasting, that is.

     The front-right burner makes the microwave handle above too hot to touch in a matter of minutes, and even worse? It's SLOW.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:04:00 JST Technology Connections

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     For reasons which are personal and too complicated to get into anyway, I've been living out of two places for like five years. That's coming to an end in fairly short order but the upshot is that I've been regularly switching back and forth between a high-end KitchenAid gas stove and a Whirlpool radiant (not induction!) electric stove.

     Now, aside from the energy source, they are essentially the same model. The Whirlpool is just the more budget-focused option.

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:04:01 JST Technology Connections

     OK, time for a short* thread** about gas stoves. At this point, I have been *thoroughly* disillusioned and don't know how I ever thought they were any good. I never want one again***

     * I hope

     ** Please read the whole thing (I'll mark the end) before replying, as I might be touching on your thought!

     *** Wok-users and enjoyers, boy do I have some interesting news for you about plug-in induction woks and how they're getting fairly cheap

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     Technology Connections (techconnectify@mas.to)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:09:29 JST Technology Connections

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs Ehh... it can be both.

     My Ikea burner is definitely worse with some pots, but it makes the same screechy sound even with the single-layer (non-laminated) kettles I have. Heh, and for the hell of it I tested to see if it would work with a baking sheet I have. Yes, it does and yes it made the same noise as always.

     I have little doubt that it's worse than a proper stove, but still. Radiant just gives a little bit of a hum.

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     ❓ucblockhead (ucblockhead@hulvr.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:14:49 JST ❓ucblockhead

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
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     @thomasfuchs @siracusa @TechConnectify @Drwave Cast iron skillets with an induction cooktop are a dream.

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     Allan Chow (grumpasaurus@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 10:35:43 JST Allan Chow

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
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     @thomasfuchs @siracusa @TechConnectify @Drwave it goes away as you get older

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     Luke Kanies (lkanies@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 11:23:55 JST Luke Kanies

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
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     @thomasfuchs @siracusa @TechConnectify @Drwave specifically the tri-ply stuff like All-Clad - the steel and aluminum vibrate at slightly different frequencies, which results in the singing