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   Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:20:35 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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   @deprecated_ii 1500w space heater starts at 69USD on amazon, pack of 200 tea candles is 35
   
   feel like it's not worth it. On the other hand, people forgor when folk use tea candles for warmth, that they are not heating the whole room, but just themselves, therefore less energy is needed to stay warm
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     d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:20:32 JST d

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     • Lichelord Godfrey
     @skylar @WandererUber @lichelordgodfrey I don't really consider electric heat viable, as the grid becomes more strained and less reliable over time
     
     obviously lots of people have no choice
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     d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:20:33 JST d

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     @WandererUber @lichelordgodfrey everything to do with wax is expensive 😒
     
     I suppose the appeal of stuff like candles and heat cans and stuff is people can buy them a few at a time, and they never do the math on just how expensive that heat will be if they need to use it
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     skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:20:33 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:

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     @deprecated_ii @WandererUber @lichelordgodfrey resistance heat isn't cheap either
     gotta pay the bill for all the kWh you turn into BTUs, you don't get any free BTUs like heat pump chads
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     Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:20:34 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer

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     • Lichelord Godfrey
     @lichelordgodfrey @deprecated_ii that's even worse for the tea candles than what I said.
     The point is they're more expensive than electric, not less
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     Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:20:35 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @WandererUber @deprecated_ii huh?

     I bought a 1500w space heater for $23.99 on Amazon.

     it's good enough for one person.

     as for whether it's better/more efficient (cost-wise) than 200 tea candles; I have no idea. I just don't want to turn up the central heat for just 1 room that gets colder than the others.

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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:21:35 JST Pawlicker

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     @skylar @WandererUber @deprecated_ii @lichelordgodfrey and the coil uses a lot of power too
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     skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:21:36 JST skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:

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     @PurpCat @WandererUber @deprecated_ii @lichelordgodfrey
     >burn natural gas at a power plant
     >capture like 60 something percent of the energy in the turbines
     >conversion loss in transformers
     >loss from resistance in every foot of wire
     >heat up a coil
     
     >burn natural gas in a furnace directly for heat
     >capture 80-99% of the energy
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:21:37 JST Pawlicker

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     @deprecated_ii @WandererUber @lichelordgodfrey @skylar it's also very inefficient compared to natural gas but muh emissions
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 01:29:27 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @skylar @PurpCat @WandererUber @deprecated_ii @lichelordgodfrey If you're trying to heat "the cold room" without upping the furnace temp, look at an oil filled radiator heater. Super simple tech, and the analog ones are the best. Look for one with two switches and a knob, like picrel. They're like $40 online or so and will often clearance around March.
     >750 watt peak power with 1 switch on, 1500 with two.
     >Heats oil inside so it doesn't suddenly get cold when it cycles off.
     >Cozy and comfy radiant heat.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 02:02:15 JST Pawlicker

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     @BowsacNoodle @WandererUber @deprecated_ii @lichelordgodfrey @skylar I'll look later, I'm looking for a job and all the stores sold out during the last cold snap
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     bebe (bebe@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 02:33:24 JST bebe

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     @BowsacNoodle @skylar @PurpCat @WandererUber @deprecated_ii @lichelordgodfrey Yes these ones are nice since they aren't blowing hot dry air at you like most other space heaters. Thank you friend.
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     Lichelord Godfrey (lichelordgodfrey@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 10:22:16 JST Lichelord Godfrey

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     @deprecated_ii @WandererUber wax is expensive and was only more expensive in the past. they used to use other means for illumination.. but for warmth you'd want to chop wood or something I suppose.

     https://invidious.poast.org/watch?v=IxBsbzUKnAs

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     d (deprecated_ii@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 10:23:48 JST d

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     @lichelordgodfrey @WandererUber what this guy's videos made me realize is most old timey techniques are nonviable because they had way lower population densities, so they could go out and forage without stripping the land bare like we would. also they had much more of a sense of common land, whereas in the US every square millimeter of land is owned by someone who doesn't want you on it
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Jan-2024 10:34:05 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @skylar @PurpCat @WandererUber @deprecated_ii @lichelordgodfrey To elaborate on how these work, you have a little dial that corresponds to temp. Usually 2-3 is about room temperature. The heater cycles on and as soon as the temperature hits e.g. 80 degrees it shuts off and stays off until it hits the activation point again, which is like 5-10 degrees down. It's radiant so it'll heat the floor and stuff around it first, and all those things are heating the air. Once it's been on for a while, it's all set and normally will cycle on for a few minutes and then back off for much longer. I had a room that got morning sun and didn't get warm until close to lunchtime, and I'd set it in there on 2 and it would activate at like 4 AM and get the room comfy by 6.