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simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jan-2024 10:21:38 JST simsa03
The sad thing with people expecting even more war in Europe is that everyone is gloomy and all they hope for is that we somehow get through unharmed. But as everybody is frightened and the status quo ante becomes the best conceivable future, no hope is left for a better one. This paralysis is life-threatening in its own way. - tinydoctor likes this.
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simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jan-2024 10:28:20 JST simsa03
The first victim of war is not truth but hope. The
unambiguousness that precedes war and makes its rise as a solution even possible, it reduces hope to a faint memory, an aching, a homesickness. War as solution to cascading problems and towering complexities is only possible because hope has been gone long before.LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} repeated this. -
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tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 20-Jan-2024 23:06:39 JST tinydoctor
@simsa03 Hmmm. I like the idea of hope being a kind of homesickness. I rather think the the first victim of war is not even the first soldier or civilian killed but the soldier or other murderer who killed them. The victim chain keeps on rattling, the gift of death and trauma keeps on giving.
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simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Sunday, 21-Jan-2024 00:26:08 JST simsa03
I'm not quite sure if it is #homesickness or #nostalgia, perhaps bordering on both. I had the German "Heimweh" in mind which connotes spatial as well temporal dimsions (or arther: doesn't distinguish much between both.) Anyway, to me #hope is indeed a form of homesickness / nostalgia, perhaps at times not directed to the past but to the future, but even then the same kind of feeling, and very often rooted in the past. Perhaps that's why I can understand your, let's put it that way: skepticism or incomprehension of hope. Obviously it's not optimisim or confidence, often not even the belief that the world is still "open" (in whatever sense). Rather, and here I may depart from you (but I don't know), it's a form of trust. Yes, perhaps that way: The trust that the world may indeed be far bigger, more complex, more intricate, more dynamic than what I sense to be my own life. That both (pretty please!) be not the same. Which intellectually we may grasp – we most often don't, regardless how much we may fool ourselves into *believing* otherwise – but usually don't sense, feel, or experience. I guess it's an advantage or benefit of getting old and tired that we grow a sense of that distinction, something the younger ones don't know and still don't have (they didn't fail yet). What you say about soldieres and murderers as the first victims I second. tinydoctor likes this. -
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tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Jan-2024 01:14:07 JST tinydoctor
@simsa03 There's a lot to respond to here, but here's my first blither: Hope, as many people practice it, is a way (or an attempt to) of foreclosing on the future. My "pessimism", my practice of despair perhaps, is a way of keeping the future open, or rather, a way of remembering the future is not predetermined, and is full of unexpectations. And that the future is now.
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tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Jan-2024 01:15:43 JST tinydoctor
@simsa03 There are many advantages to getting old and tired, imo.
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tinydoctor (tinydoctor@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-Jan-2024 01:20:36 JST tinydoctor
@simsa03 No, it's not our first time, is it?
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simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Sunday, 21-Jan-2024 01:37:57 JST simsa03
Yes, I thought so. "Practice of despair" is a nice way of putting it. -
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simsa03 (simsa03@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Sunday, 21-Jan-2024 01:42:40 JST simsa03
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