Stu
@thomasfuchs I agree completely, although just want to caveat that I've enjoyed some aspects of VR. I played a game called Super Hot on my son's Quest 2 and it was... extraordinary. Like, roll on the holodeck levels of immersion.
Of course, the whole *verse thing is just rehashed Second Life cobblers, into the sea with that.
Katie 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
@thomasfuchs oooof, hurts how true this is
Steven
@thomasfuchs what year was 3d TVs? That was another good one.
Simon Green
@passenger @KimSJ @srtcd424 @thomasfuchs Then you remember that the unnamed narrator turns out to BE Tyler Durden. He had a psychotic break because his job was to decide whether it was cheaper to let his company’s cars kill people and pay out on lawsuits or recall & fix them to save lives.
About 20 years before Tesla built their first car. Or VW diesel engines, or Jeeps that squash you against your garage, or Toyotas with self-removing wheels, etc.
I get it, Musk is a born-rich prick with
Simon Green
@passenger @KimSJ @srtcd424 @thomasfuchs Ah. Have you ever watched Fight Club?
Passenger
@Salty @KimSJ @srtcd424 @thomasfuchs
I have. A girlfriend, back when I was a kid, was obsessed with that movie (even though we were too young to watch it.) It's a good movie although I think it's irresponsible in how easily it allows itself to be misinterpreted.
Passenger
@Salty @KimSJ @srtcd424 @thomasfuchs
Tesla Motors is a car company. It makes cars with a notably poor build quality which have doors that don't open, windows that don't seal, and batteries which set themselves on fire.
I am attempting to generate humour by implying that Tesla's cars fit the pattern that was identified above.
Passenger
@Salty @KimSJ @srtcd424 @thomasfuchs
Tesla?
Simon Green
@passenger @KimSJ @srtcd424 @thomasfuchs OIC… I don’t get it…
Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷
@srtcd424 @thomasfuchs And then there’s like cars, but worse.
Simon Green
@KimSJ @srtcd424 @thomasfuchs Which one is that?
Steven Reed
@thomasfuchs
Let's not forget "like taxis but worse" and "like hotels/bnbs/self catering but worse"?
Steven Reed
@thomasfuchs
Oh, and I forgot elon's "like trains but worse"
Will Jessop
@thomasfuchs @freeformz VR Wasn’t “like monitors” and was pretty great.
Aral Balkan
@thomasfuchs Let’s use VC compression on that post:
2013: VC, working as designed
2016: VC, working as designed
2021: VC, working as designed
2023: VC, working as designed
jordan
@thomasfuchs Come on, man.
Graham Sutherland / Polynomial
@srtcd424 @thomasfuchs to be fair Uber was actually *way* better than taxis and really forced that industry into improving their user experience. booking was annoying, cars always late, vehicles barely roadworthy and often filthy and uncomfortable. they needed some real competition. most of the problems with Uber are in countries where nobody regulated them, so primarily the US. in the UK they're not as bad. still problematic for many reasons but at least they offered a valuable service.
Graham Sutherland / Polynomial
@thomasfuchs @srtcd424 yeah the UK ones were hot garbage, especially outside of London
FoolishOwl
@thomasfuchs Electron apps should be in there, following from the decay of SGML, a system of markup that exclusively focuses on semantics and is totally independent of the device used to display text, to modern Web design, which uses horribly convoluted code to fully determine a "user experience".
Th.Hampel
@thomasfuchs seems like people are just looking for a buzzword to burn money
Foone🏳️⚧️
@thomasfuchs if you can figure out what the next one is, and you have no morals, you can make a lot of money
Foone🏳️⚧️
@thomasfuchs combine the two? we'll calculate how to not age using our quantum computer.
bonus points: use the term "quantum immortality" incorrectly
Hunter King
@thomasfuchs food delivery apps could be on here too
Molly White
@thomasfuchs @foone somewhat tangential, but one of my favorite perennial @web3isgreat features is the "quantum-resistant blockchain" that can't seem to even be resistant to the non-quantum-related hacks
hare_ware
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io I'm trying really hard not to get personally offended by the second one. 🤣
9579cfc2-3e7d-35c7-af3b-cddda26f71bd
@thomasfuchs
oh god as a person who was academically interested in the functioning of neural networks before they became infinity scams, and has a passing intrest in quantum computing, please not again
@foone
Tom Bellin :picardfacepalm:
@thomasfuchs You forgot the most important part. It's slower, worse, AND more expensive! Cha-ching!
EthanRDoesMC
@thomasfuchs ai is for algorithms what react is for javascript: way too freaking much for the job
Mr Creosote
2007: Touchscreens! They are like keyboards, but slower, less precise and worse!
Simon Green
@gsuberland @srtcd424 @thomasfuchs I think I’d take stale tobacco smoke over vape stench. Smells like someone jizzed on a box of donuts.
Graham Sutherland / Polynomial
@srtcd424 @thomasfuchs people soon forget how horrible it used to be in the early 2000s when you had to sit in a city center taxi rank waiting room where everyone working there had been smoking 40 cigarettes a day for the last two decades.
FoolishOwl
@heinragas @sabandijo @Alligator @thomasfuchs I'd understood the introduction of CSS as something of a resurgence of the fundamental design principle of HTML. However that's the point at which I lose track of the history of Web design. The Web developers I know start talking about frameworks, and things get very confusing after that.
Hein Ragas
@sabandijo @Alligator @foolishowl @thomasfuchs CSS is great because it applies styling to HTML. It respects HTML for what it is, and recognizes that different renderings of the information contained in the HTML have different needs.
The HTML stays device independent, the CSS renders it in an appropriate format for the current device used.
Sabandijo
@Alligator @heinragas @foolishowl @thomasfuchs indeed it is.
Alligator
@heinragas @foolishowl @thomasfuchs I thought CSS was a nice addition.
Hein Ragas
@foolishowl @thomasfuchs HTML was perfect for what it was designed to do, and then someone decided to use it for something it wasn't designed to do, and now we get layer upon layer of cruft in so many attempts to "fix" HTML, all doomed to fail.
HTML doesn't need fixing.
Simon Green
@thomasfuchs @gsuberland @srtcd424 Me? 48, I definitely remember the days of ubiquitous tobacco smoking.
Simon Green
@thomasfuchs @gsuberland @srtcd424 Yep. Of course I can’t too much on my high horse about it given my country just voted out out the govt that banned smoking in favour of a bunch of right wing clown show f***wits who, amongst other things, are repealing it. The new Health ‘Minister’ is a doctor FFS. I hope the licensing council does find a way to deregister him over it.
Piko Starsider :verified_paw:
@thomasfuchs VR is not like anything else. Corporate hacks tried to hype their shit vision of VR, with stuff that does work better with screens, but there are truly unique experiences in VR, that makes it worth it. Despite of corporations trying to take advantage of it, and not because of it.
I don't want work meetings in VR, I want to be an animal person with friends, and that's not easy to monetize. And I hope it remains that way. So people pay artists directly when they want a custom avatar for example. I also play games but it's usually much more intense and tiring, so it's kind of an entertainment category of its own.
Glenn Fleishman
@thomasfuchs I mean, NFTs are like broken links, but even worse than broken links.
Brennan Stehling
@thomasfuchs Somewhere XML and SOAP need to be on this list.
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